The EU are on a collision course with the UK over vaccines.

Rosie51

Katie59 The UK jumped the gun on the safety checks - we took a risk, balancing the risk of side effects against more deaths from virus.

The UK did not jump the gun on the safety checks, it analysed the trial data and gave approval, the exact same data that the rest of Europe had and used to give approval, and to say otherwise is a gross slur on our scientists.

The UK did not wait for full approval the way the EU did, all vaccinations carry a risk, the UK regulators were satisfied it was safe.
End of, the rest is history.

The UK did not wait for full approval the way the EU did

That's not why there was a delay!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55844268

This article explains what went wrong.

It certainly had nothing to do with the UK taking some wild risk.

Wow Gannygangan that was a very interesting read! It explains a lot.

Urmston my 82 year old neighbour in Spain had his jab last week. His wife who is 73 and his carer was told she would have to wait a while yet but at least we are hearing about more being vaccinated.

Ah if he’s 83y with a carer he must take slight precedence I expect over my friend because although she is 85y she is totally self caring and does not take even on form of drug! Amazingly healthy, just an anxious last. Thanks mancgirl another positive anecdote to share with her soon!

Off to bed now, delighted with today’s events!

This little Island and it’s cost price vaccines could be the saviour for so many poor countries around the globe.

Once we can, that is where our production capacity needs to be delivered. Not rich EU countries that would just take if they could.

We are playing on a global stage now so let’s bring the house down.

That’s a good,balanced article Gannygangan. I think there is also a level of mistrust of the vaccine which doesn’t help. There is here, too though they are finally rolling it out now. We had ours on Saturday, no ill effects so far at least.

Worrying news:

Germany recorded 9,872 new infections in 24 hours yesterday compared with 7,709 a week ago.

I think France has a much higher daily infection rate. Anyone know what it is?

Their citizens must be extremely worried.

The partner of our eldest daughter has a German mother & grandmother. His ‘omi’ is 94y and he hasn’t seen her for months and is desperate to go over. It’s very sad for them all.

maddyone

I think France has a much higher daily infection rate. Anyone know what it is?

The figures in France are on a par with those of Germany maddyone.
The problem is in the testing because in France they prefer to say they only test serious cases for infection, whereas Germany likes to test everyone.
Therefore you are right, France could have a much higher infection rate.

Thanks Ellianne. No wonder their cases are rising if they’re only testing serious cases.It’s a bit like us at the beginning when we weren’t testing properly. They can’t have any idea of the true numbers, which a year in is pretty dire.

In France you can go for a test without symptoms free of charge. My granddaughters did this before seeing me at Christmas

In the UK you can go for a test free of charge.

Oh here we are, making stuff up about the French again. Here's some facts:

Tests per million people in Germany: 563,000 (total 49 million tests)

Tests per million people in France: 976,000 (total 64 million tests)

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Half of adults in the UK now have antibodies. That's fantastic news.

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Thanks Algrias. Incidentally I didn’t make anything up about anybody. I asked if anyone knew. I thought they would have a lot of cases if they were only testing serious cases.

Don't worry maddy it's probably me making it up!
I'll take a rap over the knuckles for just passing on what a friend in France informed me yesterday when comparing the situation. According to her the French haven't done half the tests we have in the UK.
The current emphasis is on not overburdening the hospitals.
And she is still waiting for her vaccine.

Your friend is spot on Ellianne

Tests per million people in the UK: 1,783,000 (total 121 million tests)

That's not the same as hypothesising that the French are where we were a year ago.

Got my vaccination appointment for 2 weeks time, here in Switzerland. SO very pleased. I thought I was going to miss out until I could get back to the UK.

Good news GagaJo.

I am overjoyed Smileless.