Any NOT had COVID injection?

Peasblossom

I’m just wondering Clio, whether you will reject the treatments for Covid, should you catch it or whether you will think they are too risky too?

Would you have any conscience about exposing medical staff to your infection? Or would you consider it a risk they should be prepared to take to treat you?

Good question peasblossom

Why don’t people on here let others have a view ! Wether right or wrong, we’re ALL entitled to our own view.
You are you to get on your high horses and pull people to bits because you think your view is correct
I don’t attack people for HAVING it, that’s entirely there own decision

I am doing everything else asked apart from vaccine at the moment !!!!!

Prof Sarah Gilbert and her team have been working on vaccines for Coronaviruses since the mid 2010s.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55043551

That was directed to the OP, btw.

Jaffacake2

Aged 25years old
Risk of blood clots from vaccine 11 in a million
Risk of dying from covid 23 in a million
Aged 55years
Risk of dying from blood clots from vaccine 4 in a million
Risk of dying from covid 800 in a million

The numbers really make the point. I had the vaccine although I suffer from anaphylaxis to many drugs and foods. But I risk assessed the dangers and knew it was worth it.

This is surely a matter of simple arithmetic. What is it that people refuse to grasp?

I’m pleased to see the front page headline in today’s Times - ‘Majority of Britons trust Oxford jab, poll shows.’
75% consider it safe.

DiscoDancer1975, I gather that vaccines for similar viruses have been worked on for years, so it wasn’t a case of starting entirely from scratch.

Dd1 lives in Oxford and several of the parents at Gdcs’ primary school have worked very hard on the AZ vaccine, and I for one am very grateful to them.

Clio51 if you are so risk adverse I would stop travelling in cars.

Who has said it’s been worked on for years? I’ve watched every news bulletin known to man about covid from the start, and have never heard this.
I’ve had my vaccine, and have my second booked, but I was worried about at the start. No one should be jumped on and be slated for genuine concerns. The people that annoy me are the ones who are stuck in these conspiracy theories...you know, the government are able to watch what we’re all doing!!
All I can say is, they must have been bored senseless the last few months, as none of us are doing anything....except the protesters of course.
In the case of people like the OP...she may just need a little more time and encouragement, not harsh comments.

Clio51 you could catch Covid and get a blood clot from the disease and die, or you could have the jab and have a 0.000095% chance of having a fatal blood clot. I know which odds sound the best to me! Just saying!

Although we can all go on about relative risk - and I'm a prime example of that - I don't think that makes any difference to a lot of people with vaccine hesitancy about Covid.

If any of us were really ill, and were offered a treatment that had a 95% chance of curing us, but a 0.00005% chance of killing us, I think most of us would go for the treatment. Most of us have probably done that in the past already, I certainly have.

But for many people the risk of Covid is not immediate; they are not ill at this precise moment and have read all the messages about how most people survive etc. Then there is the almost complete lack of understanding about how the vaccines were developed and tested. So it becomes a vicious circle of denial and refusal.

Personally, I don't know anybody at all IRL who is nervous about the vaccine and certainly nobody who has refused it. Social Media and the news reports will find the odd few who will refuse. And I mean "odd" in both senses. I'm not going to lose any sleep over them. We might be near the herd immunity threshold on Monday. That's good news, lets think of that!

Clio - if you read those warning paper inside any medication both prescribed or over-the-counter, then you would never take anything whatsoever. Probably not even eat many foods!!!!!

I have had both my AV jabs, - so relieved that I have. Disturbed that just one of my AC - in her mid-forties have not yet been offered their first jab,. Will be so very happy when she (and hubbie of same age), manage to get this.

All my other AC and their partners have had their first jab, and my eldest daughter her second one (due to having no spleen).

I really do find it difficult to understand anyone refusing any vax etc. that can prevent them getting seriously ill.

My thanks and admiration of the scientists who work on and produce these is boundless.

It’s a shame this has happened to the AZ. I was so pleased to have the first dose as it was (and is) my preferred one, though I would have had any of the others. Now many people have doubts, in my opinion it should be reserved for the over 50 like many other countries. Obviously I’m no expert. Luckily in my case I’m well over that age, so will be having my second shot shortly.

Clio, I have wondered the same (just curious really) but wasn't brave enough to ask.

I haven't had it and I couldn't have it regardless of whether I want to or not. I'm not currently eligible.

I have been conscientious about mask wearing and hand sanitising, distancing, following the rules, etc. so I feel I've been a good citizen.

Craic on where do you live? It is worrying that the wealthy and well connected seem to be getting it ahead of everyone else.

Oh Cleo! The irony!!! You won't have the vaccine because a miniscule number of people have died from it, though not having the vaccine will increase your chance of getting Covid which has killed vast numbers of people in this country alone!!

Yes, I haven’t had it.

Because I haven’t been bloody offered it yet!
They’re still doing over 75’s and anyone rich and connected over here.

DH has a blood cancer and he probably won’t get it until May at the earliest. Maybe I’ll get offered it in late summer, or maybe not? Not sure if there’s much point having it then if it’s efficacy only last 6 months.

We have a child in primary school so I feel pretty anxious about the situation most days.

You stand more chance of being hit by lightening than having blood clots from the vaccine.

15 times more likely die by being struck by lightning than to have a clot with the vaccine.

Lifetime risk of dying in a car a car crash in the UK during your life; 1 in 240. So you are about 8,000 times more likely to die in a car crash than to get a clot with the vaccine.

Interestingly, the chance of catching the plague (the actual Plague, i.e. Black Death) in 2021 is 6 times that of getting a blood clot.

I could go on all night

Clio51
Why don’t you and all the other fruit loops lock yourself away and leave the rest of us to live our lives.

Oh for goodness sake biscuit I have a wide circle of friends including a couple with diabetics, one who had cancer and others with a variety of other illness, not one has had more than a couple of days feeling a bit off, I felt off for about twelve hours and two paracetamols
People who are refusing it for such flimsy reasons, it really isn’t on

This is all a bit goady isn't it?

I mean, even the (badly written) title uses capitalised words.
Don't be drawn in folks.
I think Elegran and others have the measure of the op.

DH and I have both had our first AZ vaccination. He was fine and I felt awful for about 24 to 48 hours. Shivers chills headache etc.
We have our second booked for 22 April and can’t wait.
Three things I read in the paper today.

No reports of blood clots in people having their second vaccination.

A high percentage of people who were admitted to hospital with COVID went on to have a stroke in the following weeks.

You stand more chance of being hit by lightening than having blood clots from the vaccine.

Biscuitmuncher

I'm in no rush to have it. Everyone I know who have had the vaccine have felt rubbish for weeks

Sorry but I find that hard to believe. Felt bad for weeks ? A few days maybe. How rubbish do you think you’d feel with Covid ? I know one fit healthy family who all had Covid and the father and son are still not on top form three months on.
You’re not having the vaccine but I bet you would want treatment.

How many people are you talking about Biscuit?

If it is 10. 20 or 50, I would rather listen to the statisticians

I'm in no rush to have it. Everyone I know who have had the vaccine have felt rubbish for weeks

Thank you Elegran my thoughts too.