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Prince Philip's gaffes

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overthehill Sun 18-Apr-21 10:13:41

Let me say I'm no fan of the Monarchy and Prince Philip in particular.

I did read through a list of his gaffes and so called jokes. Seems he was excused his insults because of who he was and it was laughingly passed of as his 'direct' manner.

Of course I feel sorry for anyone who has lost their soulmate, but find his reverence very over the top.

I watched some of the funeral and was in awe of the whole spectacle, which Britain is so good at.

Alegrias1 Sun 18-Apr-21 12:39:00

What [insert name of any poster] means is....

Lemonsplaining wink

Mollygo Sun 18-Apr-21 12:37:52

Bluesky ?? I also warn my DH about what not to say. He’s very good at compliments, but some things are better left unsaid!

Galaxy Sun 18-Apr-21 12:37:41

I have made lots of mistakes at work, which I went to day in day out meeting very many people every day. I did manage not to make racist jokes. I dont think it's that tricky.

BlueSky Sun 18-Apr-21 12:34:29

Thank you for the ‘very nice’ Suzie! No I wouldn’t, I am very careful about my Ps and Qs as I know how words can be taken the wrong way, but then we aren’t all the same. You could also say prince Philip was a product of his time, never mind his position. The Queen must have warned him repeatedly like we do with our DHs not to put his foot in it!

AmberSpyglass Sun 18-Apr-21 12:32:48

lemongrove I like to believe that if I had his schedule, I wouldn’t make racist ‘gaffes’. And that if I did, I would apologise profusely and re-educate myself so it doesn’t happen again.

lemongrove Sun 18-Apr-21 12:31:33

What Alegrias means mollygo is that she likes to have the last word?

Alegrias1 Sun 18-Apr-21 12:28:03

See what I mean Mollygo?

lemongrove Sun 18-Apr-21 12:20:51

Chestnut

^In some circles overthehill there is no worse crime than being "woke". Any objection to racist or rude comments is simply because you are a snowflake and anyone who makes a contribution to public life must be excused any misdemeanour.^
And what circles are those, where being woke is actually considered a crime?

I think we can all accept Prince Philip for better and for worse, as did the Queen. He lived a very full life for 100 years, through a World War and a million Royal visits and events. His sense of humour was very 20th century, let's just accept that and stop fretting over the detail. I've read that in most cases his comments did not actually offend anyone except those who are constantly offended on behalf of others. Which brings us back to 21st century wokedom.

Well said Chestnut and Annie he was almost a hundred years old not a trendy woke twenty something working in PR and living in Islington.?
However, the PC brigade are out as usual on GN huffing and puffing about ‘gaffes’.Am guessing that if they had to attend public and social functions in the amount that PP did during his very long life they would have their own fair share of
gaffes too.

Galaxy Sun 18-Apr-21 12:12:11

They were racist sorry but they were. I think you can reasonably say product of his time etc. Jokes can be racist.

Anniebach Sun 18-Apr-21 12:02:17

Agree with BlueSky I think things he said which are called
racists were not racist , they were jokes.

suziewoozie Sun 18-Apr-21 12:00:37

BlueSky

suziewoozie
“You don’t know what spirit they were meant do you though ?”
Suzie I’m never malicious so I believe he was actually just joking.

You come across as very nice on GN and if you were in a position of power over someone, I think you’d be very careful about the ‘jokes’ you told, especially personal comments, as they could hardly answer back. That’s why I’m critical of the nasty little racist comments he made- he was working when he made them, not behind a closed royal door, and in a position of power over them

janeainsworth Sun 18-Apr-21 11:58:09

overthehill
I feel sorry for anyone who has lost their soulmate, but find his reverence very over the top.

Irreverence, surely?

Alegrias1 Sun 18-Apr-21 11:54:17

Am I wrong in supposing that no GNs actually think they’re posting ‘in the spirit’ of being nasty?

I think you are wrong Mollygo. I think there are posters who go out of their way to be rude, disrespectful and as nasty as they can be, for no other reason that they are just made that way.

Blossoming Sun 18-Apr-21 11:50:44

I’m not a monarchy fan, but this has upset a lot of people who are. Why post it the day after his funeral? You wouldn’t need a crystal ball to gauge the reaction. That is why I find it unpleasant.

Alegrias1 Sun 18-Apr-21 11:47:39

Well I can say "wokeness" is considered a crime Chestnut if you can say PP did a million Royal visits ??

Chestnut Sun 18-Apr-21 11:47:05

AmberSpyglass

He was racist and deeply unpleasant and I have no interest in lionising him posthumously.

Wow! You really don't have a clue do you? ?
Quote: 'It takes considerable knowledge just to realise the extent of your own ignorance'.

BlueSky Sun 18-Apr-21 11:42:17

suziewoozie
“You don’t know what spirit they were meant do you though ?”
Suzie I’m never malicious so I believe he was actually just joking.

Chestnut Sun 18-Apr-21 11:39:28

Anniebach

And those who only want to talk of his gaffs aren’t really talking
about the man at all Galaxy

You're not wrong there.

Galaxy Sun 18-Apr-21 11:39:09

Yes but it works both ways anniebach. I have rarely seen any tribute which I thought was anything other than soap opera/fairytale.

Mollygo Sun 18-Apr-21 11:37:58

I suppose most on GN post ‘in the spirit’ that they believe they have the correct version, or to be funny.
Am I wrong in supposing that no GNs actually think they’re posting ‘in the spirit’ of being nasty?

We also, of course, have the advantage of being anonymous just in case readers misunderstand our ‘funny’ or ‘correct’ posts.

Alegrias1 Sun 18-Apr-21 11:36:41

"No need for all that" What??? Are we being told off again?

Chestnut Sun 18-Apr-21 11:35:40

In some circles overthehill there is no worse crime than being "woke". Any objection to racist or rude comments is simply because you are a snowflake and anyone who makes a contribution to public life must be excused any misdemeanour.
And what circles are those, where being woke is actually considered a crime?

I think we can all accept Prince Philip for better and for worse, as did the Queen. He lived a very full life for 100 years, through a World War and a million Royal visits and events. His sense of humour was very 20th century, let's just accept that and stop fretting over the detail. I've read that in most cases his comments did not actually offend anyone except those who are constantly offended on behalf of others. Which brings us back to 21st century wokedom.

timetogo2016 Sun 18-Apr-21 11:35:22

No need for that at all,thank goodness our queen won`t be reading this.

suziewoozie Sun 18-Apr-21 11:19:37

BlueSky

I was wondering when his ‘jokes’ or ‘gaffes’ would be mentioned! OK a no-no in these pc times but I took them in the spirit that they were meant, and made Prince Philip more human. I for one will miss his humour.

You don’t know what spirit they were meant do you though ?

suziewoozie Sun 18-Apr-21 11:18:16

Galaxy

Yes because those who only talk about his good deeds arent really talking about the man at all. Only about a pretence of the man. We are all a mixture of both good and bad. I hope people dont remember me in the way they have PP, it's not real. But then none of these people actually know him anyway.

You’re not wrong there