harry and megan

Josianne

This fair lady wears red well, theworriedwell.
I do at Christmas!

It's a nice dress, I'm probably paler than her, yes that almost blue white that some redheads have. Red just seems to emphasise how pale I am.

I once had a lovely Indian GP, he was forever doing blood tests on me as he was convinced I was anaemic. One day he told me he'd been told off about how many blood tests he was doing and he said, "I can't believe how white some of you white people are particularly when you take your clothes off." I thought it was funny but I suppose some people would be offended.

And my ginger dog wears red too!

My word she’s put on some weight, hasn’t she? I thought so in that straight dress in New York and this one just confirms it.

Just an observation. People in glass houses and all that….

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This fair lady wears red well, theworriedwell.
I do at Christmas!

Obviously using the First Ladies’ designer of choice is her way of taking steps towards the top job then. Is there no limit to her ego?

I didn’t see the TM interview but what you said about how he summed H up Josianne has taken him (TM) up in my estimation.

I couldn't wear that colour, my DD could as she is similar colouring to MM. As a pale red head (well it was red) it would make me look very drained but I do think it is lovely.

I does look like it could be taffeta.

Was the fabric taffeta? That is notoriously difficult to stitch. Yes, the colour was lovely.

I just read this about the designer she is famous for dressing various First Ladies, including Jacqueline Onassis, Laura Bush, Michelle Obama, and Melania Trump.

maddyone

I thought the dress looked ill fitting too, especially around the chest area.

I thought it was a lovely colour and the colour certainly suited her. I fear my old sewing teacher wouldn't have passed the darts on the bust, maybe styles have changed but I didn't think they were well done.

I thought the dress looked awful in the bust area. It did nothing for her at all. I wouldn’t be choosing Caroline Herrera for another occasion if I were Meghan ( I think she was the designer).

Well said Sparklefizz, you made me giggle.

Alegrias1

^Did anyone see the Thomas Markle interview? I've just watched it and he summed Harry up pretty well in terms of his behaviour.^

Which bit? The bit where he said that Harry had been dropped on his head when he was a baby or the bit where he said they were going to take the stabilisers off his bike soon?

He seems nice.

No Alegrias you've got it wrong if you think we are just talking about the flippant -humorous- bits here. We were discussing the top job in politics and TM summed Harry up by saying he should decide whether he wanted to be a royal or not. Royals are not supposed call up or write letters to the government as Harry is doing.

Did anyone see the Thomas Markle interview? I've just watched it and he summed Harry up pretty well in terms of his behaviour.

Which bit? The bit where he said that Harry had been dropped on his head when he was a baby or the bit where he said they were going to take the stabilisers off his bike soon?

He seems nice.

If she wants to go into politics, she will have to mix with people she may not like and not hide away like she did when Trump visited the Queen.

She is much too touchy to go into politics. She can't stand a word of criticism. She lies a lot, though, so maybe that would help.

What exactly does Harry do?

Juggles

I thought the dress looked ill fitting too, especially around the chest area.

Those cups with the nipple sucked into the fabric were weird.

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I thought the dress was pretty hideous too Bluebellwould in comparison with the lovely red one she wore at same type of event in the UK. I guess we have to remember though that different things go in different countries and she obviously prefers the glitz of the USA.

If Meghan is going for the top job then she is going to have to learn to dress appropriately in my humble opinion. The red dress the other night was way too glamorous for the occasion and highly inappropriate. It was slit nearly to the waist and split up to her thigh. It was ill fitting as well with her back bulging over at the back and as for the fit around the nipples it puffed out around the darts given a most exaggerated effect. She certainly wouldn’t have worn that on a royal outing. If she is wanting to go into politics not a good look but perfect for a celebrity lifestyle.

There have been several suggestions by other media outlets about Meghan’s supposed desire for the top job.

If Gransnet are afraid of being sued they need to look very closely at some other threads where well known people are shredded. What has been written about the Duchess of Sussex is small fry to what I’ve read about some other well known people.

Maybe Elegran but I hope I am not silenced just because I am trying to fathom people out, one of my hobbies! What is wrong with suggesting Meghan might be preparing herself for the top job and then discussing the attributes that accompany that role, or discussing how Harry lives in cloud cuckoo land, (which my youngest daughter does by the way). Nothing libellous I can see in these discussions unless someone wishes to differ?

Perhaps "There is something odd about how the Meghan and Harry threads are reported and deleted so quickly to at the slightest thing." because GN are in danger of being sued if there are libellous posts? GN and MN are responsible in law for what is said on their sites.

I don’t think he, Harry, has any understanding of what the American Dream actually means.
I think all Harry's dreams are elusive, maybe that is just the way he is made.
Did anyone see the Thomas Markle interview? I've just watched it and he summed Harry up pretty well in terms of his behaviour.
The poor man did look as though he is ailing fast and just wants to get his version of the truth out there.

The American Dream has always been about the prospect of success, but 100 years ago, the phrase meant the opposite of what it does now. The original “American Dream” was not a dream of individual wealth; it was a dream of equality, justice and democracy for the nation. The phrase was repurposed by each generation, until the Cold War, when it became an argument for a consumer capitalist version of democracy. Our ideas about the “American Dream” froze in the 1950s. Today, it doesn’t occur to anybody that it could mean anything else.

Professor Sarah Churchwell