Boris and Carrie have got married!

lemongrove

How very old fashioned some of your comments are, not to mention both bitchy and wrong. Carrie Symonds was not a
‘Mistress’ but a girlfriend before she became engaged to Johnson. She had a responsible and well paid job and wasn’t ‘kept’ ( which is what a mistress would be.) Neither was he stringing her along just as an affair.Many men have affairs with somebody before they divorce their wives, if they loved their wives or had worthwhile marriages that wouldn't happen.

So my marriage wasn’t worthwhile
. In my experience a man won’t leave his wife unless he has someone else to go to whereas a woman is more likely to either stay in an unhappy marriage for the sake of the children or leave with no one else to go to. My husband wouldn’t have left if he hadn’t found someone else to go to. Someone who told me on the phone that I was a bad wife. And then left my husband to go back to her ex husband. That’s why I have no sympathy for the ‘other woman’. And I know that some people in here seem to have had happy divorces but it infuriates me when people that have had no experience of divorce and it’s impact on someone’s life seem to brush it off so lightly. And I’m still waiting for a response regarding Symonds being sacked from a previous job for wrongdoing.

I don't know anything about Carrie Symonds being sacked for wrong doing but it would not surprise me as she does not seem to be a very moral person, in spite of her claim to being a Christian.

As for Boris Johnson he is the very model of a thoroughly immoral person- such a habitual liar he has been sacked at least twice for lying, he is sexually incontinent to the point of not seeming to know how many children he might have fathered and he will do anything that he thinks might serve his own ends, even conspiring to have someone assaulted - as Eddie Mair said to his face - "he is a nasty piece of works."

The great mystery is how anyone with a conscience could possibly vote for him.

I think she was asked to resign, it was something to do with expenses I think. They make a great couple.

Now Carrie Symonds ‘doesn’t seem a very moral person’ !
I never knew we had all these earnest chapel goers on the forum.
You can’t put your own experiences Maybee onto everybody elses marriages ( or divorces.) I have never read that she was
Sacked for any wrongdoing either, and as there are libel laws perhaps you should be careful what you write.

Not all mistresses who marry their once married lover leave a vacancy. It’s possible to kiss many frogs till one finds one’s prince

Have just looked for sources ....not very reliable ones The Mirror and the Sun, they all use the word allegedly, that she booked taxis and claimed other expenses also another says that allegedly a boss thought she wasn’t up to the job.Maybe somebody wanted her job, who knows?

lemongrove

Have just looked for sources ....not very reliable ones The Mirror and the Sun, they all use the word allegedly, that she booked taxis and claimed other expenses also another says that allegedly a boss thought she wasn’t up to the job.Maybe somebody wanted her job, who knows?

Ok. She was ‘asked to leave’. Which is far far better than being sacked ....

As for referring to Carrie as his mistress (such an outdated label) - wasn't he married to his first wife when he was having an affair with his second wife - so doesn't that mean she was a mistress too?

Yes, I believe so, Beckett.
Such an old-fashioned, sexist term though.

Beware the serial adulterer.

Does anyone really care, she will be running No 10 now then

lemon realy? - "mistress" is old fashioned but Many men have affairs with somebody before they divorce their wives, if they loved their wives or had worthwhile marriages that wouldn't happen
Talk about confused!!!
As for Boris's political morality- it matches his personal. It doesn't exist. Brexit bus, Garden Bridge, Jennifer Accuri, Test&Trace, proroguing parliament. The list goes on. Face facts. He will do anything, to anybody as long as it benefits Boris

trisher

lemon realy? - "mistress" is old fashioned but Many men have affairs with somebody before they divorce their wives, if they loved their wives or had worthwhile marriages that wouldn't happen
Talk about confused!!!
As for Boris's political morality- it matches his personal. It doesn't exist. Brexit bus, Garden Bridge, Jennifer Accuri, Test&Trace, proroguing parliament. The list goes on. Face facts. He will do anything, to anybody as long as it benefits Boris

Yes

I too hate the term “mistress” - all my daughters lived with their now husbands before they married.
I similarly hate the expression “ make an honest woman” or “fallen woman “ (me too often) “love nest”, “love child” and indeed the assumption that marital breakdown or divorce can simply be laid at the door of a “roving eye”, “bit of skirt” or “sultry temptress”

Surely we have grown beyond this sort of tabloid/Victorian prudery speak?

MawBe you are not a mistress if you live with a man unless that man is already married. Co- habiting is a different thing- sometimes known as 'living over the brush'.
What would you call a woman who is having a sexual relationship with a married man? His girl friend? His bit on the side?

lemongrove

Callistemon

Happy to oblige!

Callistemon is that really Hugh Jackman? He looks different maybe it’s the hat. ?

At first glance I thought it was a young Clint Eastwood - Spaghetti Western era.

Dinahmo
I never liked Clint Eastwood much but think Hugh Jackman is lovely!

trisher

lemon presumably you don't believe then that behaving in a questionable way in one's private life indicates loose morals, which mean you will act in the same way in your political life? If you lie and cheat in private you will lie and cheat in public.

Lloyd George was a renowned womaniser and steered the country out of WW1. After that he was so loved by the people the King was quite jealous of his popularity. I believe some of his methods were a bit dubious but he was still one of our greatest Prime Ministers. Sometimes being a paragon of virtue doesn't always bring the best outcomes, nor does it endear you to the people.

varian

I don't know anything about Carrie Symonds being sacked for wrong doing but it would not surprise me as she does not seem to be a very moral person, in spite of her claim to being a Christian.

As for Boris Johnson he is the very model of a thoroughly immoral person- such a habitual liar he has been sacked at least twice for lying, he is sexually incontinent to the point of not seeming to know how many children he might have fathered and he will do anything that he thinks might serve his own ends, even conspiring to have someone assaulted - as Eddie Mair said to his face - "he is a nasty piece of works."

The great mystery is how anyone with a conscience could possibly vote for him.

You can feel the venom pouring out here, can't you? My goodness. It's making me feel quite queasy. ?

ChestnutLloyd George had his critics.
This article written just as his government celebrated 1 year in power is critical, but even more interestingly some of the criticism miight be applied to Johnson archive.macleans.ca/article/1918/2/1/the-faults-of-lloyd-george

It might be more interesting (and difficult) to list politicians who were/are always very moral in their private lives, never had an affair:

Theresa May
Margaret Thatcher

(Two women so far)

trisher

*Chestnut*Lloyd George had his critics.
This article written just as his government celebrated 1 year in power is critical, but even more interestingly some of the criticism miight be applied to Johnson archive.macleans.ca/article/1918/2/1/the-faults-of-lloyd-george

That's kinda my point. He was a renowned womaniser, loved by the people but definitely flawed. Many did not agree with him or his methods. Sounds familiar? Yet he was one of our greatest Prime Ministers.
Maybe the people just want someone who's glass is half full, not half empty.

Ffion Hague wrote a book about Lloyd George's women. I wonder if she is busy now writing another!

Surely Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and David Cameron can be added to the never had an affair list?
It still shocks me about John Major and Edwina - always the quiet ones!

Callistemon

It might be more interesting (and difficult) to list politicians who were/are always very moral in their private lives, never had an affair:

Theresa May
Margaret Thatcher

(Two women so far)

Do we really know that much about every politician living and dead? I couldn't even name every MP serving at the moment let alone comment on their private lives, moral or immoral

I thought the issue with Johnson was that he is amoral.

It still shocks me about John Major and Edwina - always the quiet ones!
Wasn't it around the same time that Cecil Parkinson had an affair with his secretary, Flora Keys? I remember finding that sad as they had a little girl with health issues and I don't think he supported them.

Lloyd George was highly intelligent and was known as the Welsh Wizard. He was a great manipulator of situations and his thinking was described as like quicksilver. He was a great PM and yes because of that his womanising was more or less accepted by the public. Now we move to our bumbling PM.......well think about it........Hmmmm.

My friends mom (who is probably the least 'woo' person that I've met) swears that she saw the ghost of LG.
And I believe her wholeheartedly.
She had recently given birth to my friend; and her, her husband and the baby went to stay in a holiday cottage in Wales.
One night she woke and saw a kind looking man in spectacles leaning over the babies crib, peering in fondly at the baby.
She learnt the next day that the cottage once belonged to Lloyd George.
Isn't that lovely!