Boris and Carrie have got married!

I know there have been comments about those starting threads and not coming back to them, but I just posted the news as it happened and you lot just took off! I can't believe it is still going, but what ever keeps you entertained.

Wow Fanny! What a great story. Weirdly I think these experiences might sound scary but then people say they did not feel scared at all because the atmosphere was not scary.

Do you suppose he thought the baby was one of his Fanny? 'Lloyd George knew my father' and all that

I’d be more worried if the song went “Lloyd George knew my mother……” ???

Callistemon

It might be more interesting (and difficult) to list politicians who were/are always very moral in their private lives, never had an affair:

Theresa May
Margaret Thatcher

(Two women so far)

Short list

MawBe that's the point of it- Lloyd George knew my father (he might in fact be my father!)

Now it's Boris knew my father ?

MawBe

Callistemon

It might be more interesting (and difficult) to list politicians who were/are always very moral in their private lives, never had an affair:

Theresa May
Margaret Thatcher

(Two women so far)

Short list

Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, David Cameron have been added
James Callaghan? Edward Heath? Harold MacMillan?

Let’s be honest and say that we don’t really know! It’s only those that have become public knowledge ( who have had affairs.)

Chestnut

trisher

lemon presumably you don't believe then that behaving in a questionable way in one's private life indicates loose morals, which mean you will act in the same way in your political life? If you lie and cheat in private you will lie and cheat in public.

Lloyd George was a renowned womaniser and steered the country out of WW1. After that he was so loved by the people the King was quite jealous of his popularity. I believe some of his methods were a bit dubious but he was still one of our greatest Prime Ministers. Sometimes being a paragon of virtue doesn't always bring the best outcomes, nor does it endear you to the people.

You have answered for me Chestnut thanks.?

MawBe

I’d be more worried if the song went “Lloyd George knew my mother……” ???

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As far as the comparison between Lloyd George and Boris Johnson goes perhaps the best clue to their differences lies in the way they have treated their families. LG always supported his wife and children although he had other women and his wife did not like living in London www.library.wales/digital-exhibitions-space/digital-exhibitions/david-lloyd-george/the-life-and-work-of-david-lloyd-george/david-lloyd-georges-family
As for BJ 2nd wife pregnant whilst he was married to No 1, shacked up with 3rd wife whilst still married to No 2. Doesn't know how many children he actually has and tried to wriggle out of supporting 1.
LG may have been a philanderer but he had some principles. It's hard to find any in BJ.

trisher

Do you suppose he thought the baby was one of his Fanny? 'Lloyd George knew my father' and all that

Actually, that did cross my mind.
I know very little about LG but
I've read that he had 'secret' children, and that he really loved children

FC There was a lot of adultery around in the upper classes at the time I believe. The concept being that the wife provided the husband with a couple of children to carry on the family name but then both were free to stray. If she got pregnant the child would be treated as the husband's. LG is supposed to have fathered quite a few.-hence the song.

It shows how far we have come and crossed the class divide then trisher ? as there is a lot of adultery around everywhere and in all social ‘classes’. Levelling up? Or levelling down?

I'm not sure you can say Lloyd George was one of the upper class. His background was very different from the other toffs and he never quite fitted in amongst the Oxbridge set. He was very clever and could match them in debate, but was not a true toff.

I don't think I did say Lloyd George was upper class. I said they accepted adultery and he fathered children with them. His origins were not mentioned

Another dimension Harold MacMillan's wife Lady Dorothy daughter of the Duke of Devonshire had a 30 year affair with Bob Boothby hidden from no one accepted by all.

Ellianne

^It still shocks me about John Major and Edwina - always the quiet ones!^
Wasn't it around the same time that Cecil Parkinson had an affair with his secretary, Flora Keys? I remember finding that sad as they had a little girl with health issues and I don't think he supported them.

Baron Parkinson got his secretary pregnant in 1983 Flora is 37 now and was treated despicably by Parkinson.
Edwina was having her affair with JM in 1985 and felt very sorry for Parkinson and his wife and family - but obviously not bothered about poor Norma.

We definitely cannot add Edward Heath to the list - he never married! But he allegedly had a very sinister/secret private life.

A lot of young naval ratings tripping up his back stairs. Allegedly.

Ah! Hugh Jackman, now you're talking!

Harold Wilson and Marcia ?

Anniebach

Harold Wilson and Marcia ?

My mother was at boarding school with Wilson's wife Mary. Both of them were daughters of clergymen. Apparently Mary was very saintly, prim and proper, (stuck up). Maybe Wilson needed a bit more fun elsewhere?
My mother was a real rogue at school!

Mary Wilson at 102 years and 145 days holds the record as the longest living spouse of a PM! Antony Eden''s wife could break the record she will be 101 on 28th June. She has to live to November 2022 to do so!

Boothby was I discriminately promiscuous. He also had long standing relationships, including sex, with the Krays