Royal Thread the Second- Tiaras Optional! ?

He is just so very naive, isn't he.

In a way, I feel sorry for him, poor sap.

Me too Callistemon
I honestly think that he may be having some sort of breakdown.
He looks very strange around the eyes.
I predict many twists and turns along the way.

Callistemon

He is just so very naive, isn't he.

In a way, I feel sorry for him, poor sap.

I agree with you and FC, and I felt the same watching Harry in clips last night on TV. Admittedly the programme was all about Meghan, but he did look rather unhappy in the eyes at times.

I fear for him, his father and brother must be so concerned

There's a big juxtaposition in that Harry is at pains to call himself a "man", but is also behaving like a toddler throwing his toys out of his pram when he doesn't get his way.
In the programme last night, someone said the purpose of the Oprah interview might have been to extract an apology from the RF for the way in which Meghan had been treated. Because that apology hasn't been forthcoming, Harry is now going all out to reveal everything that he thinks is bad about them.

He’s starting to come across like a member of a cult.

I wrote something like this on Mumsnet last year:

Imagine that Harry was Princess Harriet, the much loved daughter of Diana, who’d been swept off her feet by a whirlwind romance with a charismatic American actor with a complex past; and who also swept Harriet away from her family, friends and home…

The public and press would be screaming Coercive Control from the rooftops

Interesting, FannyCornforth

Yes, Fanny, exactly.

Oh come on. He's left a role as a minor Royal doing things he was probably bored stiff with to live in a mansion next to a sunny beach. He has two children to play with and enjoy. He can dip in and out of public life when he feels like it and he has a wife who will organise things for him (some men like that you know). Why shouldn't he change his life if he wanted to?

But trisha he certainly never gave any previous indication of being bored or unhappy.

He seemed very happy in his various activities: doing whatever he did in the army; in the company of his family- dad, brother, sister in law, cousins; with his various girlfriends; larking about Ed Sheeran and that car share bloke; travelling all around his beloved Africa; finding purpose and validation with his Invictus charity etc etc etc

While he seems so happy and fulfilled now…

But if he and Meghan had stayed I don't think they would have just been "minor royals". I think at first Charles and William (as in The Fab 4) were pleased to have them on board, as was the Queen (as in The Commonwealth). Meghan promised to bring so much to the monarchy, it is disappointing. So many, "if onlys".
They moved away but took the baggage with them, which is ironically exactly what they want.

crossed post, same ideas Fanny.

trisher Why shouldn't he change his life if he wanted to?

No reason at all, trisher, but did he need to trash his family? It's the way he has done it that is the problem.

I was brought up to treat people as I wanted to be treated. Would Harry like it if William did the same to him? Would you like it if you family tore you to shreds on social media?

If Harry had deliberately set out to cause his 95 year old grandmother the maximum amount of hurt and upset he could hardly have done better.

I am absolutely disgusted with him.

trisher

Oh come on. He's left a role as a minor Royal doing things he was probably bored stiff with to live in a mansion next to a sunny beach. He has two children to play with and enjoy. He can dip in and out of public life when he feels like it and he has a wife who will organise things for him (some men like that you know). Why shouldn't he change his life if he wanted to?

Of course he can.
As we are a family who have had many émigrees over centuries as well as those who moved from country to town, all over this country too it seems normal to me.

But to publicly trash the family you left behind who feel it is their duty to carry on working in the family firm (whether they want to or not) is unforgivable.

It's interesting, there's a similar but converse situation in our family from a century ago but the youngest was left behind to run the family firm and the rest emigrated.

Ellianne

But if he and Meghan had stayed I don't think they would have just been "minor royals". I think at first Charles and William (as in The Fab 4) were pleased to have them on board, as was the Queen (as in The Commonwealth). Meghan promised to bring so much to the monarchy, it is disappointing. So many, "if onlys".
They moved away but took the baggage with them, which is ironically exactly what they want.

We don't need the Fab Four and family costing us a fortune Do you think it's good queen can have say in laws especially thoses that affect her private interests and change a transparency law to hide her embarrassing wealth. Her staff of Asian or mixed race are still not covered by the race and equality law from decades ago queen opted out of that law. The book The Palace Letters out now. By professor Jenny Hocking the Australian 75 PM dismissal She was kept fully informed but did not warn the then PM

So RF spend public money freely
Does not involve herself in our constitution
So has no role to play
Do not have an impact on tourism
Finding Evidence proved in independent report Royal patronage is not worth having. As RF do not visit over 70% of charities which gives them plenty of time to pursue their own interests.

So what are they there for why do we have them?

I hope the Billboards about monarchy going up tomorrow will make people think. We deserve better

Absolutely no reason why Harry shouldn't change his life if he wanted to. After all, nobody attempted to stop him, did they?

Wonder if this is what rankles, as he does not present as a happy and fulfilled person.
Is this what has unleashed the Great Disgruntlement?

Callistemon

trisher

Oh come on. He's left a role as a minor Royal doing things he was probably bored stiff with to live in a mansion next to a sunny beach. He has two children to play with and enjoy. He can dip in and out of public life when he feels like it and he has a wife who will organise things for him (some men like that you know). Why shouldn't he change his life if he wanted to?

Of course he can.
As we are a family who have had many émigrees over centuries as well as those who moved from country to town, all over this country too it seems normal to me.

But to publicly trash the family you left behind who feel it is their duty to carry on working in the family firm (whether they want to or not) is unforgivable.

So if someone moves away from a family where they haven't been happy, where they perhaps witnessed their mother being spoken about and treated abominably they should keep quiet about it? Isn't that a bit Victorian? Don't we urge survivors to speak out?

Diana's niece. Beautiful wedding dress and veil, Dolce and Gabbana.

I think it looks a bit weird! Maybe just an odd photo

Perhaps witness , perhaps not .

Lucca

I think it looks a bit weird! Maybe just an odd photo

In what way Lucca?
Try this one from Tatler. I think the bra cups are less prominent in b & w!
The lace does it for me.

Yes that’s better. Very splendid and so good to see dresses without the obligatory strapless arrangement

I know this isn’t a fashion thread but I’m not always a massive veil fan, sometimes it can detract from the dress?