Royal Thread the Second- Tiaras Optional! ?

Surely if it’s a league table the whole point is that it will change over time. The relative unpopularity of Charles now may well change before he becomes king, the Queen may live for another 10 years, or yet outlive Charles, or he may become increasingly popular as he takes over more of her duties over time. I think his position at present is because of his relationship with Harry, so no doubt that will change too, for better or worse.

Theory, not practice. Doh

Alegrias that sounds marvellous in practice. I just can’t see us making a decent fist of it…

Calendargirl, how interesting, I didn’t know that
I wonder what they thought she was going to choose.
Which names would we all opt for?

After 73 years being known as ‘Charles’, I think the public would find it very hard to call him ‘George’.

He should stick to his own name.

Apparently, when the Queen became monarch, she was asked what name did she want to be known by.

“My own, of course” she replied.

FannyCornforth

Alegrias1

Don't get me started on whether we, unlike any other modern democracy, should be incapable of choosing our own "Head of State" and can't really be trusted with making decisions at a ballot box.

Benevolent despotism, that's what we should have (sarcasm!)

But how can you reconcile that with Brexit, and the current Government?
And whenever you ask folk who they would like, they come out with flipping Branson
Or we’d end up with Simon Cowell or even Johnson (shudder).
I actually quite like the idea of a benevolent despot (not sarcasm!)

I'm going to post on this becuase you asked Fanny, even though I expect folk are sick of me going on about it...

We need to decide on what the role of a President is; it is in all probability NOT going to be the same as the role in the US or France, where the Head of State is also the Head of Government. Our Head of Government is the PM, and would continue to be, in all likelihood. I'm not aware anyone is asking for that to change, and if we don't like this lot, we'll we can vote them out in a few years

So the President would probably be a figurehead, of sorts, same as we have at the moment and similar to what they have in Germany, Ireland, Finland, a hundred other places that don't have monarchies. The difference is that we could have someone that represents the nature and characteristics of the British people, and not be landed with someone who is in position just because their ancestors were good at fighting or sucking up to whoever happened to be King at the time.

And if we decide they're not up to the job, we vote them out next time. And we don't expect them to take on a role that means they have to work into their nineties.

Mollygo

Is it time to send a message to GN HQ with a word of praise for one of these posts.

Ah Molly how kind. Thank you

Ellianne, you could always subscribe to my Queen Charlotte theory!

(I don’t think anything horrid will happen to George btw, before anyone gets busy with the report button)

I think that Charlotte’s ‘Middleton Woman Genes’ plus those of the Queen plus Diana’s will prove a heady and dynamic mixture; and that she will have massive appeal to the public.
Whereas George may prove to be a bit meh
I just think that Charlotte will be a huge star

I think it is a bit sad there won't be a proper reigning Queen for a long long time, if ever. They tend to do a better job!

I agree Charles' patience must be running out. It's like sitting on a volcano, you never know when, if ever.
Or like Samuel Beckett's, "Waiting for Godot."

Thanks Blossoming, I was wrong as usual!

Ah Blossoming, yes, that sounds like a good idea

The Duke of Windsor’s full name was Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David.

Alegrias1

Don't get me started on whether we, unlike any other modern democracy, should be incapable of choosing our own "Head of State" and can't really be trusted with making decisions at a ballot box.

Benevolent despotism, that's what we should have (sarcasm!)

But how can you reconcile that with Brexit, and the current Government?
And whenever you ask folk who they would like, they come out with flipping Branson
Or we’d end up with Simon Cowell or even Johnson (shudder).
I actually quite like the idea of a benevolent despot (not sarcasm!)

FannyC It seems to me increasingly likely that William will take over

I thought that, but I think that Charles will still be king, with William taking on more duties on his behalf, as it were. Charles is in his 70s. The Queen was much younger when she took the throne.

It’s not unusual for ‘them’ to have different names.
Think Edward, the Duke of Windsor, his real name was David.
And Charles is a big fan of George III, aka ‘Farmer George’. He was very popular with the public too

Calendargirl

^Charles is going to be King George, isn’t he?^

Is he?

Why?

Maybe because one lost his head and the other just hung on then his brother lost the crown?

Another George! They are worried about the Charles legacy aren't they?

Charles is going to be King George, isn’t he?

Is he?

Why?

What a great way to run a country.

Tell a 3 year old boy that his destiny is decided for him but he'll have to wait 75 years for it to happen.

Its not nice is it?

I don’t think it’s Charles wants to be king, he became heir age 3
and only 9 when made Prince of Wales , so no choice .

Don't get me started on whether we, unlike any other modern democracy, should be incapable of choosing our own "Head of State" and can't really be trusted with making decisions at a ballot box.

Benevolent despotism, that's what we should have (sarcasm!)

I hadn’t really thought about it that way Al. Nah, I don’t suppose that it will happen like that.

And Charles really wants the gig too. Things might have been different though if he didn’t want to be monarch.
He will have to do a lot of heavy lifting to get the Great British Public to accept the seismic change of HM not being at the helm.

What with Covid and B*****, we really don’t want any more psychological upheaval.
That why I don’t want to be a Republic, I can’t be doing with change. I need stability. That, and I don’t trust us to pick a decent President, or whatever.

Charles is going to be King George, isn’t he?

And what would Charles do, how can the king be the son of
The Prince of Wales ?

FannyCornforth

Thank you Casdon, that’s very interesting to have it in black and white like that.
It’s a bit concerning to see just how relatively unpopular poor Charles is.
He’s only just above Sophie, and there must be quite a few members of public who dot even know who she is.
The men in grey suits may have something up their suit sleeves.
It seems to me increasingly likely that William will take over when HM pops her Allendro and Davide’s of Kensington
(yes, I looked that up, and yes, I am that sad!)

If William takes over from HM in place of Charles, they've lost any shred of credibility they are clinging on to. The whole point of a hereditary monarchy is that it is hereditary. If they change who comes next because they think the next guy in line is a liability, then what on earth is the point of any of this duty and tradition that they keep throwing in our faces?

Thank you Casdon, that’s very interesting to have it in black and white like that.
It’s a bit concerning to see just how relatively unpopular poor Charles is.
He’s only just above Sophie, and there must be quite a few members of public who dot even know who she is.
The men in grey suits may have something up their suit sleeves.
It seems to me increasingly likely that William will take over when HM pops her Allendro and Davide’s of Kensington
(yes, I looked that up, and yes, I am that sad!)