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Jeanseberg Fri 09-Jul-21 23:38:25

I don’t see eye to eye with my boss, he undermines me in front of my staff, criticises me regularly, doesn’t value my contribution, the rest of the management team are ‘laid-back’ putting more pressure on me, I feel I’m being pushed out in a not so subtle way, I could go on and on. I know it’s time to move on and I don’t want to wait to find a new job. I don’t have time in this role to job hunt and I’m fortunate enough to be financially secure to take my time with a job search. But I’m in my early 50s and fear of job hunting at this time of life is holding me back even though I’m more and more miserable and becoming emotional at work on a regular basis.

I left my last job with no other one to go to and that worked out find but I was my late 40s then.

Help.

V3ra Sat 10-Jul-21 08:21:26

That set-up and boss sounds like somewhere my husband worked. He moved on by phoning a director he knew at another company and asking if they had a vacancy. He timed it just right as they'd just decided they needed someone.
Would a few speculative phone calls to people in your field be worth doing?

sodapop Sat 10-Jul-21 08:28:57

Sounds like a very difficult work environment Jeanseberg if you intend to resign then I would ensure you take this man to task over his behaviour. Also make sure the other directors are aware of your reasons for leaving. This may prevent others from being treated in the same way. Good luck.

Jeanseberg Sat 10-Jul-21 08:32:48

I will definitely focus on moving on now and decide whether I want to cause myself further stress and frustration by going down the HR route for the sake of what I guess would only be a couple of grand payout? I don’t really have a field, my speciality is operations and service but I’ve worked in a variety of industries. I am very focused when it comes to job-hunting but the age thing does concern me. I guess it’s a numbers game though and I need to get past it mentally too. This is another reason to get out, it’s knocking my confidence when I know that the right organisation is lucky to have me!

Jeanseberg Sat 10-Jul-21 08:51:42

To add, I lost a really talented member of my team earlier in the year due to this person’s behaviour towards her. She also got stressed, frustrated and ending up resigning which was a massive loss to the company. But he labelled her as an unstable troublemaker who wasn’t that good anyway.

Franbern Sat 10-Jul-21 09:03:08

Cannot understand anyone spending most of their time somewhere they are unhappy, particularly if they are not even financially dependant on that job.
I had no paid employment for a couple of decades, whilst I was bringing up my children, fostering children and acting as a carer to my husband.
Applied for a part time job when I was 61 -first one after I stopped paid employment some 25 years earlier. Got that, spent a happy eight years there, gaining promotion, etc during that time. One period, thought I was going to be made redundant, applied for another job (I was then 65 years of age), got offered that one also.
So, in my opionion you are pretty young - even more so as these days official retirement age is so much higher. When I applied aged 61 years of age, I was already then one year over female retirement age.
Do not waste time being stressed and unhappy- hand in a polite letter of notice and take your time to find yourself an alternative, happy employment.

Jeanseberg Sat 10-Jul-21 09:10:19

Thank you Franbern. This is what I really want to do but opinion seems to be divided on whether that’s foolish or not. I need to bite the bullet. I’m sure I will instantly feel like a weight has been lifted. At the moment I’m wasting time and energy attempting to change someone who has no need or motivation to do so. After I’ve left I’m sure he will still see me as the problem, same as my team member who left a few months ago.

Dottygran59 Sat 10-Jul-21 09:13:51

Completely agree with Franbern. My current job evolved from a temp role (as have most of my jobs TBH - I use temping as a way of scoping out companies to see whether we are a good fit) The temp agency had many mature ladies - most in their 60s, who were in high demand due to their experience, work ethic and committment. They, like I, were often offered permanent roles. Some accepted, some preferred the flexibility of temping. I'm 62 and I would not remain in a job that made me feel like you do, Jeanesberg - I'd be registering with agencies like a shot - temp and permanent.

I don't necessarily agree that our age is held against us - we often rung rings round our younger colleagues.

I urge you to stop thinking and do it - start today - life is too short

Good Luck

Jeanseberg Sat 10-Jul-21 09:21:07

Thank you so much, yes you’re right I’m like the fool who keeps using the same methods and expects a different outcome.

I have just re-instated my Indeed profile and have identified a couple of companies I’d like to work for and who will be lucky to have me! I also have LinkedIn premium to use that for job hunting although at the moment I can’t chase my status for obvious reasons.

I will also get back in touch with the agencies I temped with a few years ago, I always got excellent client feedback.

Oopsadaisy1 Sat 10-Jul-21 09:23:26

I agree with dillythegardener document everything then tell the other Directors that you need an urgent meeting with them and tell them what is happening.
It’s constructive dismissal, don’t let him get away with replacing you with someone less competent and cheaper to employ. It’s time to stand up for yourself, if it doesn’t work out at least you will have had your say, but as Dilly said get ACAS involved. Meanwhile get your CV out to the Agencies.

Jeanseberg Sat 10-Jul-21 09:23:54

Thank you so much to everyone who has taken the time to post, I’m so glad I started this thread.

Jeanseberg Sat 10-Jul-21 09:37:44

I don’t think I will end up going down the route of addressing it via ACAS and the other directors. I want my notice period to be as stress-free as possible without confrontational meetings for the sake of a few extra grand. This person owns a third of the company and is the dominant force. However I do appreciate the advice on this point.

DillytheGardener Sat 10-Jul-21 10:18:59

That’s fair enough, if the payout is not desperately needed then as you say perhaps moving on is the right and best choice for you.

I would at your exit interview (or letter after you have left) though be very blunt regarding your value, your departure and his leadership resulting in a another valuable coworkers decision to leave. I was once hounded out like yourself, I was the first to quit but eventually the whole department left and I was contacted 8 months later to ask about my experience as head office finally cottoned on it wasn’t the boss but the management.

Take heart. Don’t let his hounding of you put your confidence down. You are valued by clients, your co workers and your other directors, their loss will be a another companies valuable addition!

Jeanseberg Sat 10-Jul-21 10:36:30

Thank you so much. The validation and appreciation of our customers has been the only thing that has kept me going this long and I feel even that has been held against me with his comments about me making others in the team look bad. I can’t wait to get to a new company who realise how lucky they are to have me.

Franbern Sat 10-Jul-21 10:51:12

Older employees are often so much more reliable, not having to take time off for child care, school holidays etc.

Jeanseberg Sat 10-Jul-21 11:35:01

I agree, I still think there is a lot of age bias though. I’m 10 years older than my closest colleague in age and I don’t come across many older women amongst the staff of either our suppliers or customers but they must be out there somewhere.

Dinahmo Sat 10-Jul-21 20:40:20

Jeansberg If the other two directors own 2/3 of the business then they must have more power than your boss. You said that you got on well with the one to whom you used to report so how did you get on with the third one.

As a minority shareholder and the other two disagree with him there's not a lot he can do. The problems will arise if one of the others side with him.

I recall at least one other thread on a similar subject and that lady found a good new job.

Good luck

Jeanseberg Sat 10-Jul-21 21:36:35

The third director speaks of me in the highest terms also, both to me in person and any customers we have calls with. On a recent business trip, the ex-boss director said how lucky they’d been to find me when they started as they couldn’t have achieved what they have without me. But they are both so far-removed from the day to day running of the business they don’t really see what goes on. They come in the office once a week at most. Whatever my boss’s faults, he does the majority of the work so I can’t imagine they’d want to rock that boat as it would mean they’d have to step up. I’m sure they’ll be sure be shocked when I hand my notice in and perhaps they’ll get in touch to talk to me separately. I imagine one will make excuses for my boss ‘he doesn’t mean it, it’s just how he is’ as they are the closest two and the third will be non-commital ‘I can’t really comment, I don’t really come in the office much’.

The more I think about it, the more it looks like my boss is building a team around people aged between 18 and 23, no doubt because they don’t speak up to him or question what he says.

Anyway, best plan is to find another job away from it all. Glad to hear it worked out for the other lady.