Prince Harry’s Memoirs, should he or shouldn’t he

How on earth do you know anything about any member of the RF's parenting skills? The D & D of Cambridge seem to be loving caring parents, the Wessex children seem pretty ok as far as anyone can tell, the York sisters by all reports are very nice young women,despite their parents. Princess Anne's children seem pretty well balanced from what the rest of us can see.

Not a soul, in my opinion, in RF have parenting skills, nor is he seriously estranged. Not sure why that is relevant to Harry's new book?

He criticises his 95 year grandmother on her lack of parenting skills , this shows who they are.

H&M have to keep their brand relevant, and as the foundation of this brand is the RF, I predict that unfortunately there will be more of it until people no longer want to pay to watch/listen/read what they say/write.

Meanwhile I repeat again the saying "When people show you who they are, believe them". H&M's own words and actions (not those written about them in the press) have to my mind shown me who they are. I don't like them.

The queen went to see Eugenie and baby August not harry. Frogmore is huge, it is where Eugenie lives.

When is he going to chill out and concentrate on his new life.
He has a wife, two children ? Beautiful home ?
Isn't that what he wanted ?Clearly something is missing and until he finds that ' missing something' not going to shut up .

Well, turning on your own family is pretty grim how ever you look at it, however, we all have our own views and opinions so perhaps best left. Wait for the memoirs I'm sure all will be revealed which will clarify everything.

A photograph of the Queen driving in Windsor park , not parked outside Frogmore.

We can suppose she had more sense than to visit anyone who
was self isolating.

My criticism of the couple is what they say in public and some of their actions.

There's a difference between hating what someone does and hating the person responsible.

We have endless threads on estrangement, so many in fact that an estrangement forum was set up by GNHQ, and many of those are in relation to a family being broken up by a third party.

"It's not for us to tell anybody that they need to find help and move on, that's just presumptuous" really!!!! Despite the fact that there have been numerous responses to posters here on GN to do exactly that.

H & M can choose whether or not to keep attacking the RF, the RF have no choice. There will be some who support them and some who don't. If you're going to broadcast the personal details of your family and your own life, including your mental health, people are going to comment.

'People in glass houses' springs to mind and perhaps H should stop throwing stones or he may find he destroys his own glass house.

Just for clarification; this: I've made this thing up, and you can't prove its false is what people are saying about the Sussexes. Not what I'm saying

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I am reading, waiting for the oven to heat up.

'There's no evidence at all that they (she?) planned from Day 1 to be anything other than "real" Royals. Anybody who says otherwise is speculating, and using hindsight to fit to their own ideas'.
You have no evidence for this either.

I've made this thing up, and you can't prove its false.

Anniebach

The Queen went to see Harry when he was isolating ?

www.thesun.co.uk/news/15392582/prince-harry-arrives-frogmore-diana-statue/

We can but suppose.

But then we're good at that, aren't we?

It is the lies which offend.
And dogmatic statements such as:
'There's no evidence at all that they (she?) planned from Day 1 to be anything other than "real" Royals. Anybody who says otherwise is speculating, and using hindsight to fit to their own ideas'.
You have no evidence for this either.
People are making judgements based on the actions and words of this couple, plus their increasingly apparent disregard for truth.
Bearing in mind both have turned on their families publicly and are extremely litigious journalists are careful in what they write and have evidence to back it up, even though their sources may not be revealed at the time.
For someone who claims not to have strong feelings either way about what M&H do, you spend an inordinate amount of time trying to impose your beliefs on those who do not share your views.
But as you won't be reading this, it doesn't matter.

For me it is their hypocrisy I find annoying.

The Queen went to see Harry when he was isolating ?

Is it not also presumptuous to conclude people will 'man the pitchforks'?
I see very little difference

I'll just post this and then I'll say no more Jabberwok.

There's no evidence at all that they (she?) planned from Day 1 to be anything other than "real" Royals. Anybody who says otherwise is speculating, and using hindsight to fit to their own ideas.

When I see them on TV or whatever (which, admittedly is rarely), they don't seem to be full of bitterness, rage and revenge. They seem to be a quite dippy LA couple living an LA life.

If their family are so distressed, why did the Queen (metaphorically) leap in her Land Rover and head off to see Harry hours after he arrived in the UK for the statue unveiling? We know nothing about what they feel about each other, and in any case its none of our business. It's not for us to tell anybody that they need to find help and move on, that's just presumptuous.

I think that at the beginning they were immensely popular, everyone was really glad and enthusiastic that Harry had found such a seemingly lovely lady to share his life with and who seemed to want to embrace royal life with great enthusiasm. Now of course we have come to realise that this was a sham with a completely different agenda from day 1. Well, ok, royal life was not for them, so retiring from this and living a private life would have been disappointing but understandable, but what is not understandable is that too was a sham , and instead of a quiet private life, they have chosen to make huge sums of money by trashing the RF, most of which has been proven to be untrue, by giving that interview, writing a book, threatening more memoirs, and generally doing their best to completely trash and discredit the people who love them. Why on earth would you do this? Money? Surely not, but if it is, then it's shameful, if it isn't then to be so eaten up with bitterness, rage and revenge is quite dreadful, and frankly Harry needs to seek help and move on.

Yes sorry if I'm not making sense, I at least know what I mean!

I'm invested because I'm interested in why people are so in thrall to the RF that somebody who they believe is "dissing" the RF becomes such a hate figure.

We don't have endless threads about other people who are viewed as having split up families so it must be an RF thing.

IMO.

Namsnanny not clear what you mean

I also think h and m are possibly a bit silly and it’s a shame the family is split etc but it is not important to me personally and I still think some of the comments are vicious,

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Well you might just as well ask Michael Jackson (just an example) fans why they were so up in arms about him and his shenanigans?

BTW IMV its disingenuous to turn this into a academic discussion about why are people invested, when originally, the level of investment was equally as high in those who complained.

The Uprising documentary that trisher has started a thread about makes me angry. The way we treat migrants as vermin makes me angry. The complete disregard for the health and welfare of this country by its leaders makes me angry. Ignoring climate change makes me angry.

A sad bloke and his American wife might make me sigh a bit, but I don't manage to keep the anger simmering for months on end.