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Scentia Sun 25-Jul-21 13:15:36

My DD and SIL have neighbours who during the summer insist on smoking cannabis in their garden, but it is making its way up to my DGD bedroom as the windows are open.
I said they should call the police but they are unwilling to cause too much fuss as it may make things worse. I feel like knocking the door myself and telling them to stop but obviously it is not my place to do so. Have any of my GN friends any ideas on what to say to them to cause the least amount of animosity with their neighbours?

Nannan2 Mon 26-Jul-21 23:51:16

Kpnuts- are you sure its not a cannabis grow in their attic???

Nannan2 Mon 26-Jul-21 23:59:55

I went to view a (rented) house a few wks ago, and as i viewed the back garden/yard i could smell it- it put me right off after my last neighbours shenanigans.?when i went back inside i mentioned it to the landlord who was showing me round.. i think that house is still on the market.

lavenderzen Tue 27-Jul-21 07:19:03

MissC your posts are "utter garbage" what a rude and ignorant man you are. MavisC is making comments that are perfectly justified.
I recognise what she is saying, I have watched a member of my family take this drug which then lead on to other things, the effects of this have been catastrophic on the person concerned and the rest of the family.
You have a very blinkered view on this, and I suspect on other things, god help anyone who comes across you in the criminal justice system that you work purport to work in (Walter Mitty I suspect).

MissChateline Tue 27-Jul-21 07:53:23

Lavenderzen…….firstly what makes you think I’m a man ?!!!!!

Secondly I’m now retired but I worked as a substance abuse worker for many years in residential settings and for 15 years in a professional criminal justice setting. I actually think that it’s extremely rude of you to make the comments that you have made. You have no idea who I am and what I did as a profession.

Negative effects, making users unreasonable and lazy “

I still stand by the belief that this statement is total and utter garbage. How has the poster of this statement come to this conclusion? All people who smoke weed are unreasonable and lazy? Maybe she doesn’t know anyone who is hard working and reasonable who smokes weed. I assure you that there are plenty.

Nan0 Tue 27-Jul-21 08:27:11

The catastrophic effects of cannabis on the brains of young people is not to be underestimated..The strain on mental health services and the crime caused by the effects of addiction and repurcussions on farm ilies of dealing with mentally ill young people who have ruined their liives with cannabis and other substances mean that I personally would come down like a ton of bricks on anyone contaminating the air I breathe if I had neighbours moronic enough to smoke weed that I can smell coming into my house and garden..I have a godson whose life has been wrecked by his addiction to weed at university..

MissChateline Tue 27-Jul-21 08:37:55

I dont actuality like the smell if weed particularly skunk which i think is revolting. I really don't like the effects that weed has on me and I no longer smoke anything and haven't done for years. But I've no problem with other people smoking it including my wife and other professional friends.
I fully get that it can be a very dangerous drug and occasionally a gateway drug for some. But this is not the case for everyone who smokes weed just as not everyone who enjoys alcohol is not necessarily an alcoholic.
There is a connection between young males starting to smoke in the mid to late teens and it is recognised that this may be to mask the onset of other mental health issues. It certainly was very difficult to get treatment for these young men who required dual diagnosis. It may be easier now.
Apologies fir sketchy info but am out for my presentation breakfast stomp.

MissChateline Tue 27-Jul-21 08:39:44

Presentation. Pre breakfast!

lavenderzen Tue 27-Jul-21 08:43:17

MissC man, woman or whoever it makes no difference. Your comments was extremely rude.
I don't know you granted, but you give a full description of your life past and present up thread, is this not true?

MissChateline Tue 27-Jul-21 08:51:00

Lavenderzen.. im really fed up with comments like this. I have never written anything on here regarding my life that has not been totally true. Im more than happy to have a PM conversation with you and even a facetime/Skype call with you where we can discuss facts but I'm not prepared to go into more detail on an open forum.
I guess that hiding behind a made up name gives you courage to say things that you would not say to my face.

Gabrielle56 Tue 27-Jul-21 09:10:09

MaggieTulliver

Would you be equally upset if they were just smoking ordinary tobacco OP? Because if it’s just the fact that it’s weed that you don’t like, then I think you’re being unreasonable.

It's NOT unreasonable to expect your personal space at home to be smoke free especially weed free! The point is that the drift is getting into the house and GD is maybe experiencing some exposure. If the neighbours were equally reasonable which I'm sure they'll be if they're pot smokers-then a quiet word I'm sure will be well received. But it's not being unreasonable in my opinion.

Gabrielle56 Tue 27-Jul-21 09:12:09

tanith

I don’t think the police would be interested but asking them politely to move down the garden would be reasonable.

The police are duty bound to respond to any callouts. Quickly or otherwise, they will visit and caution.best to ask first to moderate smoking location

Gabrielle56 Tue 27-Jul-21 09:15:02

My DS and his girl used to smoke a bing all the time at our house when students. I hated it but their alternative location was the woods behind the house where rabbits shoot at nights and I was scared to death they'd be injured by accident. Any amount of pleading didn't stop them either . I hated it! He still smokes at 38 and it's blighted his career which is now no. Existent. He has a poorly paid boring job instead of being the pharmacist he qualified as....

Gabrielle56 Tue 27-Jul-21 09:16:14

#bong ! And rabbit shooters go at night (Never ever seen a rabbit with a gun.......)

Gabrielle56 Tue 27-Jul-21 09:21:13

BlueBelle

I don’t think it’s illegal for home use espee it is for growing or selling or large amounts but I don’t think it is for small amounts in your own home
I get it from both sides of my house ?
I don’t think police would do anything for home use and to be honest they d never stop knocking on doors if they did it’s extremely common usage
The best one was last year my daughter and I were in the sea and I said to her ‘can you smell weed’ she said ‘yes it’s very strong’ we were both puzzled being in the sea then a lilo floated past with a middle aged to older man lying on his back puffing away we couldn’t help laughing it was such a strange thing to see
In answer to your original question I don’t think that’s there’s much you can do

Cannabis remains illegal to possess, distribute, sell or grow in the UK.

Cannabis is classified as a class B drug. As such, any person who is caught with cannabis risks up to five years imprisonment, an unlimited fine, or both. While being convicted of producing and supplying a Class B drug, risks up to 14 years imprisonment, an unlimited fine, or both.

For those caught with a small amount of cannabis – typically less than one ounce – police can issue a warning or on-the-spot fine if the possession is deemed for personal use.

It therefore remains illegal to smoke weed anywhere in the United Kingdom, including within one’s own home. Data however suggests that this law is regularly flouted. Now yer know!

Barmeyoldbat Tue 27-Jul-21 09:43:13

We gave it to my mum in her final days, my sister was having a smoke near the window and my mum said that smells lovely can I have one. So we gave it to her, I must say it also eased her pain and made her a lot calmer. My sister smoked it because as she said if she didn’t she would have to take anti-depressants. In fact when my upper back was giving me such pain it was unbearable I did wonder if smoking weed would help.

Maggiemaybe Tue 27-Jul-21 10:10:21

@MissChateline

Lavenderzen…….firstly what makes you think I’m a man ?!!!!!

Possibly when you said you smoked as a youth? I’ve never heard that word applied to a young woman, so I can understand the confusion from someone who hasn’t come across you before.

Regardless of what I think of your views, leaping on those of others as utter garbage as you did is arrogant and rude, and you can hardly be surprised when they bite back. The opinions and experiences of others are just as valid as yours.

MissChateline Tue 27-Jul-21 10:28:02

@ Maggiemaybe,

If a statement is clearly unsubstantiated and false I think that I have every right to question it. It is also a gross generalisation. There maybe some lazy weed smokers but there are also some very industrious users of the drug.

I would have thought that MISSchatelaine was a clear indication of my being female and if anyone was aware of the lovely song of the same name by KD Lang might be able to ascertain other details about me.

Maggiemaybe Tue 27-Jul-21 10:57:34

Of course we all have the right to question any statement made on here, but using the same courtesy…….as you would use when speaking to someone face-to-face (from the GN guidelines). Would you really start a conversation with someone you’ve met for the first time with Utter garbage?

As for the name, I’ve been a member long enough to know men posting with female usernames and vice versa. Never assume.

MissChateline Tue 27-Jul-21 12:05:58

@maggiemaybe
Would you really start a conversation with someone you’ve met for the first time with Utter garbage?

That’s actually a polite version of what I might say to a real human being if they came out with such a ridiculous statement as “all dope smokers are lazy and unreasonable”.

Maggiemaybe Tue 27-Jul-21 12:43:18

Which is slightly different from what was said, which was It has all sorts of negative effects, not least of which is making users both unreasonable and lazy. I doubt the person who wrote that meant all users.

But whatever. Speak to people however you like. I’ve got Olympics to watch.

3nanny6 Tue 27-Jul-21 12:50:21

Cossy I thought I would take a look at this thread as I found it interesting. Also I posted earlier and I came across your post
shouting me down and saying how you disagreed with me.

You made a claim that you worked with people with substance abuse/addictions and your post suggested how you think the whole spectrum of drugs should be decriminalised.

All I said in my post was that the OPs daughter should ask the neighbours to go further up the garden as it was unacceptable for the smoke to be going into the child's bedroom. Certainly it is unacceptable and it would be unacceptable to me.

Now my turn about the work I have done with substance abusers and some of my experiences. Firstly I will tell you about young teenage girls being introduced to cannabis by older men and then being plyed with alcohol taken to dodgy B@Bs and GANG RAPED! sounds nasty doesn't it? I did not want to talk of things like that but it is a scenario that has happened time and time again. Liberal people like yourself want to turn around and say legalize cannabis and heroin etc,
and it will clean up the drugs problem well sorry you are talking out of your a**e.
Even cannabis has detrimental effects on many young people
and leads them onto severe mental health issues some are even diagnosed with schizophrenia because of it they are the ones that have become heavily addicted to skunk which is the worst type . Many dealers even lace the skunk with small amount of crack to draw these people in even further until they are stealing and robbing just to buy the stuff.
I am going to leave my post here but I could write a million words about what I know and my experiences with drug /addiction users, it would never be enough because drugs are not glamorous and they do not discriminate anyone who gets caught up in even the smallest addiction can find themselves on the road to hell.

So Cossy do not tell me how good you are because you sound bloody stupid.

MissChateline Tue 27-Jul-21 13:09:18

3nanny6….nowhere have I said that all drugs should be decriminalised. In fact when I was working with users of heroin and other class A drugs my mission in life was to rid the city of every drug dealer . I totally hate the stuff and the damage it can do. And believe me there were plenty of dealers and dealing on the streets was open and visible. May I assure you that I am also fully aware of the abuse of young girls. Life in the criminal justice system in this northern city at the time of the Rochdale grooming abuse and the Bradford riots was not pleasant.

I worked for several years on what used to be the old DTTO’s (drug treatment and testing orders) and was on the small team that set the Order in my city up when it was first introduced. I have Written hundreds of court reports regarding the progress on the Order, supervised drug users in the community and been involved in sentencing options for dealers etc. I think I know what I am talking about.
What I am saying is that from my experience all smokers of weed are not unreasonable or lazy .

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 27-Jul-21 13:28:59

MissC, not surprising someone gets confused when you refer to yourself as having been ‘a youth’, which infers a young man, and also refer to your ‘wife’. Perfectly understandable.

3nanny6 Tue 27-Jul-21 13:38:29

MissChateline : I did not refer to you in my post if you look again I put the name COSSY so that is who I was addressing.
I did not mention you or any thing to suggest that you wanted drugs decriminalized, and yes we all want every city to be free of dealers although I am most certain that will never happen
as the gains for the top man of the trade are too lucrative and the top man will have people from all walks of life getting back-handers out of his purse that's the way it is.

MissChateline Tue 27-Jul-21 13:44:27

Apologies, I thought it was an autocorrect issue….