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Scentia Sun 25-Jul-21 13:15:36

My DD and SIL have neighbours who during the summer insist on smoking cannabis in their garden, but it is making its way up to my DGD bedroom as the windows are open.
I said they should call the police but they are unwilling to cause too much fuss as it may make things worse. I feel like knocking the door myself and telling them to stop but obviously it is not my place to do so. Have any of my GN friends any ideas on what to say to them to cause the least amount of animosity with their neighbours?

Callistemon Mon 26-Jul-21 15:00:37

What did Infuriate me though was that for the past month she’s been smoking it every morning then getting into her car/school of motoring car afterwards( stinking of expensive perfume) for driving lessons. In my eyes that is just as bad as drinking a few shots of vodka.
FronkyDonky yes, driving under the influence is probably more prevalent than people realise.
Unfortunately, there are unscrupulous solicitors who offer to help get offenders off using loopholes etc.
They are a danger to other road users.

MavisCabbage Mon 26-Jul-21 15:40:16

I suffer from asthma and l would like to move as the guy downstairs ( disabled) smokes grass and so do the neighbours on one side.
I think there's a widespread feeling that it is mean to object to people smoking this appalling drug. It has all sorts of negative effects, not least of which is making users both unreasonable and lazy. Why people think it is 'better' than alcohol is beyond me.

aonk Mon 26-Jul-21 15:40:25

I’m very surprised at the amount of tolerance to cannabis smoking on here. It’s illegal and that’s an end to it. It can cause addiction and lead to other drug usage. The grandchild concerned will eventually grow into a teenager. What a bad example to have on her doorstep! Before anyone says anything I don’t smoke and drink alcohol only rarely and never have barbecues!

Cossy Mon 26-Jul-21 15:43:24

3nanny6

I would have a calm word with them and tell them that the smell is making it's way into the child's bedroom and it is not
acceptable for that to be happening. Tell them to at least go to the very back of the garden out of the way and do it there.
It is most common now and to find teenagers and young adults smoking is almost normal, When I walk my dogs I smell cannabis all the time.

A few years ago a friend of mine was fed up with the
teenagers next door constantly smoking cannabis she went a bit extreme and anonymously told police that there was drug dealing going on at the address and the house got raided by police.
The father of the teenagers went mad but at least they stopped doing it. There was no real damage done as the police only seized a small amount and the boys got a caution.

3Nanny6

I’m appalled on so many levels by your post ! Whilst I have every empathy for your friend, 1) lying to the police about dealing isn’t great, 2) Police cautions can have a highly detrimental effect on both employment and travel 3) if they did ever discover who reported them it could make things quite awful for your friend

Cossy Mon 26-Jul-21 15:50:19

I’ve done a lot of work with addiction, people who do misuse alcohol and drugs tend to have addicted personalities In the same way that people who drink alcohol don’t all become alcoholics actually surprisingly few people who use cannabis go into be heroin or crack cocaine addicts.

For me the issues around both drugs and alcohol are the effects it has on some peoples personalities and their anti social behaviour.

Personally, and this is a personal and controversial view, I would like to see ALL drugs decriminalised, sold under licence and taxed. Drugs have been around for literally hundreds of years and are going nowhere. To keep them off the streets and sold legitimately would clean up our towns, stop county lines, cut down on gang culture/crime and keep drugs checked and safe. The added bonus would be more taxes for the government and dealing in alleys, parks and inside schools and colleges brought to an end. I know not everyone will agree with me.

Diane7 Mon 26-Jul-21 16:13:38

I agree with Petal1 my friend uses it for pain relief and it helps immensely. I have another friend who has a very small garden and neighbours from hell, occasionally her and her husband walk to a nearby woodland with wonderful views and 'enjoy' the piece. Why not?

ChrisK Mon 26-Jul-21 16:48:59

Our next door neighbour is a user, quite honestly it is pretty lethal both for the user and those who have to put up with the disgusting stench. We had our house on the market, so my oh mentioned it to his wife, they haven't spoken to us since, very sad, as we always got on ok. He has cut back quite a bit though, it made matters worse when they built an extension, its ok asking users to go further away in their garden, but ours are rather small, and anyway he uses indoor s with the window open, which is right next to our property. I guess people who use it for medicinal purposes can try and keep it in check, I wish I had the nerve to try it for my chronic arthritis but couldnot stand the stench

Lincslass Mon 26-Jul-21 16:57:39

Perhaps all those who advise others to turn a blind eye to people smoking cannabis, this might be illuminating.
www.smoke.me.uk/2019/02/02/is-it-illegal-to-smoke-cannabis-in-your-own-home-and-what-can-you-do-if-your-neighbours-are-smoking-it/

songstress60 Mon 26-Jul-21 17:03:09

My brother-in-law was over fond of it, and it caused him to have financial problems and he became hooked on it. My dad bailed him out many a time. My brother-in-law was a doped up pothead. It is NOT harmless at all, and can cause lethargy and laziness.

babzi Mon 26-Jul-21 17:32:29

I am taken aback at how many people are accepting this as normal. It's still illegal. Any person using it for genuine medical purposes will have it prescribed. It's totally different from street drugs to which people are referring. Prescribed means it's clinically clean and controlled. I see a few people arguing it's not a police or council matter which it totally is. Again, it's for pain...so many people smoke it as if it's a majority or something. Truly not the case but the justification of users or ex users. It can I've time cause untold harm 're mental illness even to the point of irreversible psychosis.

Hellogirl1 Mon 26-Jul-21 17:48:42

I don`t have a clue what cannabis, or any other drug, smells like. My husband was a heavy cigarette smoker for most of his life, and I hated the smell of that. When he gave up it was heaven!

BlueBelle Mon 26-Jul-21 17:50:48

Espee the police do not act on small amounts of weed whether it’s illegal or not They do not have the man power even if they wanted to it is very very widely used and they know it they would be on the weed hunt day in and day out so they turn their heads
My friend has reported her neighbours for dealing many times and the police have not even been out to speak to them
I think you would be very very surprised at the amount of professional people who smoke cannabis regularly
I am not saying it’s right but it is what happens it’s used on an everyday basis by many The bus left the station a long time ago
It will be legalised, again I m not condoning it but it’s a fact of life just as common well nowadays more common that cigarette smoking You can’t stop an avalanche with a single spade

Dinahmo Mon 26-Jul-21 18:00:40

MavisCabbage

I suffer from asthma and l would like to move as the guy downstairs ( disabled) smokes grass and so do the neighbours on one side.
I think there's a widespread feeling that it is mean to object to people smoking this appalling drug. It has all sorts of negative effects, not least of which is making users both unreasonable and lazy. Why people think it is 'better' than alcohol is beyond me.

I used to smoke dope back in the sixties and seventies. A group of us would be at someone's flat, have a few joints, listen to some music and generally chill. We didn't go out into the streets and behave like drunken yobs - fighting and throwing up everywhere.

MissAdventure Mon 26-Jul-21 18:19:06

I've met many, many unreasonable drinkers, but never an unreasonable stoner.
As has been said, they're too chilled and lazy to start a fight.

MissChateline Mon 26-Jul-21 18:44:41

MavisCabbage

I suffer from asthma and l would like to move as the guy downstairs ( disabled) smokes grass and so do the neighbours on one side.
I think there's a widespread feeling that it is mean to object to people smoking this appalling drug. It has all sorts of negative effects, not least of which is making users both unreasonable and lazy. Why people think it is 'better' than alcohol is beyond me.

“Negative effects, making users unreasonable and lazy “
What utter garbage.

My wife was based in Switzerland for 20 years. It’s legal to cultivate up to 4 plants there for personal use. We had plants on the balcony and an annual crop.I don’t smoke anything anymore as I stopped smoking tobacco a few years ago and don’t dare smoke anything to tobacco related. But my wife is an international negotiator working with heads of governmental departments and internationally recognised in her specialist field. She enjoys a couple of small joints on a evening to relax and chill out after a heavy day or after long haul flights. (When these were part of the job). Anyone more hard working and dedicated to the betterment of international labourer and health you could not meet. Unreasonable and lazy……I don’t think so. Please don’t generalise…..
I have worked with addictions for many years within the criminal justice system. I smoked dope as a youth, I don’t like it any more as the skunk around now bares no resemblance to the grass of my youth. BUT it is not a gateway drug any more than someone enjoying a glass of wine in the evening will be become an alcoholic.

Scentia Mon 26-Jul-21 19:02:51

Wow, what a lot of comments!!
I am not surprised at how many people feel it is not a problem. If it wasn’t emanating into a 10week old baby’s room I personally would not care and I don’t think my DD or SiL would either.
They bought the house three years ago and they have always had it but since the birth of baby number 2 who is in back bedroom it is now an issue. They can not close the window it is boiling!!
I think a lot of you are thinking it is the smell that is the problem, it is the smoke that is the issue. My DGD is a stoner at 10 weeks old, we thought she was smiling early?
Thanks for all the comments it has kept me amused for a while and taken my mind off the shambles of an Iceland delivery I have just got??

Pammie1 Mon 26-Jul-21 19:41:27

To those who think the OP is being unreasonable. Cannabis is toxic to the point of being carcinogenic and it’s known to cause mental health problems in those susceptible. Would you want such fumes making their way into the bedroom of a child of yours ?

MissChateline Mon 26-Jul-21 19:46:08

Emissions from vehicles of all types are carcinogenic. More people die from poor air quality worldwide than have died from COVID in the past year. Does anyone stop taking their child out in a pushchair where 5hey are susceptible to breathing in toxic fumes. How many homes use nasty chemical air fresheners or toxic cleaning fluids.

nexus63 Mon 26-Jul-21 20:08:44

a few years ago the daughter of one of my friends had her child taken away (she was staying with a deadbeat) and sent to live with grandparents, they smoked it all the time in the house in front of the child, social work visited every week and did nothing about it. most of it is grown in the uk so there is so much of it about, police only give a fine, a relative uses it everyday, they just make a call and it gets delivered, he uses it to manage pain, i have never tried it, the smell gives me a headache. i would just ask them if they could move further down the garden or leave her window shut.

MissAdventure Mon 26-Jul-21 20:17:27

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277837/

Cannabis is far less toxic than tobacco, although who would want either drifting into a baby's room?

MavisCabbage Mon 26-Jul-21 20:26:08

If you were a reasonable person, you wouldn't refer to my comments as garbage. And you don't even smoke the stuff...

Blondiescot Mon 26-Jul-21 20:37:25

babzi

I am taken aback at how many people are accepting this as normal. It's still illegal. Any person using it for genuine medical purposes will have it prescribed. It's totally different from street drugs to which people are referring. Prescribed means it's clinically clean and controlled. I see a few people arguing it's not a police or council matter which it totally is. Again, it's for pain...so many people smoke it as if it's a majority or something. Truly not the case but the justification of users or ex users. It can I've time cause untold harm 're mental illness even to the point of irreversible psychosis.

I think you'll find it is extremely difficult to find a doctor who is willing to prescribe cannabis, even though it has been legalised for medical use in some instances.

MissChateline Mon 26-Jul-21 20:51:30

MavisCabbage

If you were a reasonable person, you wouldn't refer to my comments as garbage. And you don't even smoke the stuff...

No I don’t smoke the stuff any more, but I’ve probably smoked more of it for longer in my life than you have and had a very professional career. I still think your comments are unsubstantiated garbage.

Florida12 Mon 26-Jul-21 20:53:57

It’s everywhere, I am always getting whiffs of it to the point that I do wonder if I’m imagining it.

User7777 Mon 26-Jul-21 21:21:14

This one made me laugh. I take CBT cannabis oil for pain. A neighbour in our street was clearly smoking cannabis and I would wake up in my garden with arms dangling beside me. I was knocked out cold. Wasnt worried. Couldn't feel any pain. The smell was so strong in the street someone from Neighbour Watch reported it. Hence the smell stopped, and I am still in pain. Horses for courses I suppose