Mridul Wadhwa - Male CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis

Yes and I would encourage her to file a case for unfair dismissal. As I think I said about this co-chair and her dispute.
I remember men arguing they had been removed because the organisation was fulfilling a women's quota system.

I've seen a number of people claim over the years that they were removed from a position which gave them a bit of kudos. They all made claims about bias, political differences, personal animosity, and other excuses. In most cases the claims were not true, some of the people were inadequate, some were just victims of reorganisation. Unless you have actual proof that there is no reorganisation happening this really isn't credible.

Would you say this to MW if she were to lose her job and claimed that she had been ousted because of bigotry and not for lying?

‘ Gay people make up between 1 & 8 or 9 % of the population . Are they anomalies?’

Is that what you think?

GrannySquare

‘ What about people with XXX? Or XXY? What are they?’

The rare occurence of these genetic anomalies are the exceptions that prove the rule of XX & XY chromosomes as binary.

Gay people make up between 1 & 8 or 9 % of the population . Are they anomalies?

Chewbacca

Yet another example of women being silenced:

A campaigner on violence against women has claimed she was sacked by Sadiq Khan's administration after expressing concerns about transgender women being allowed into refuges for rape victims.

Joan Smith, a member of the Labour Party, said she was fired by City Hall after raising the problem on behalf of charities funded by the London Mayor that were said to be concerned about the proposal.
Ms Smith wrote to Mr Khan to say that though trans women should have access to services they need, female victims of male violence should not have to share refuges with 'individuals who have male bodies'. The Mayor did not respond, the Times reports. Instead, his administration wrote to say her position as co-chairwoman of the Violence Against Women and Girls board would be taken over by a City Hall official.
Ms Smith believes that she fell out of favour after calling for improvements in the way Scotland Yard identifies sexual predators in its ranks, and for highlighting so-called 'endemic misogyny'.

A spokesperson for the Mayor's Office for Policing and Crime, said: 'The Mayor's Office for Policing and Crime (MOPAC) has undertaken a review of all of its partnership boards, including the VAWG Board, to enhance the strategic leadership of the criminal justice system for London and to standardise how all the boards are chaired.

'Our Boards bring together a broad range of experts and provide a plurality of viewpoints on the complex issues we are working to tackle. Joan Smith's expertise and insights on the VAWG Board have been valuable and we are grateful for her time and service.'

Wonder who they'll appoint instead?

I've seen a number of people claim over the years that they were removed from a position which gave them a bit of kudos. They all made claims about bias, political differences, personal animosity, and other excuses. In most cases the claims were not true, some of the people were inadequate, some were just victims of reorganisation. Unless you have actual proof that there is no reorganisation happening this really isn't credible. But she could bring a charge of unlawful dismissal or complain to the Charity commission if she has any evidence.

‘ What about people with XXX? Or XXY? What are they?’

This NHS briefing offers high level briefing about the estimated incidences & impact of chromosomal anomalies & human development.

www.wales.nhs.uk/sites3/documents/416/chromosome.pdf

HTH.

‘ What about people with XXX? Or XXY? What are they?’

The rare occurence of these genetic anomalies are the exceptions that prove the rule of XX & XY chromosomes as binary.

GagaJo

I quite agree DD. But given that a couple of posters on here engage in online bullying, it is difficult to have a civil discussion.

Read the post above my previous one. So rude. Imagine if I had written that.

It is my belief that everyone is equal. Regardless of biology, gender, ethnicity, physicality, nationality. The ONLY people I don't regard as equal are those who actively seek to deny others rights. Which is what I see gender critical feminists as doing.

GJ “The only people I don’t regard as equal are those who actively seek to deny others’ rights.”
So actually you don’t support MW, or those who actively seek to deny natal women the right to spaces where men or untransitioned TW are not allowed, or those who actively seem to deny natal women the right to choose a counsellor of the sex they want.
Interesting.

Yet another example of women being silenced:

A campaigner on violence against women has claimed she was sacked by Sadiq Khan's administration after expressing concerns about transgender women being allowed into refuges for rape victims.

Joan Smith, a member of the Labour Party, said she was fired by City Hall after raising the problem on behalf of charities funded by the London Mayor that were said to be concerned about the proposal.
Ms Smith wrote to Mr Khan to say that though trans women should have access to services they need, female victims of male violence should not have to share refuges with 'individuals who have male bodies'. The Mayor did not respond, the Times reports. Instead, his administration wrote to say her position as co-chairwoman of the Violence Against Women and Girls board would be taken over by a City Hall official.
Ms Smith believes that she fell out of favour after calling for improvements in the way Scotland Yard identifies sexual predators in its ranks, and for highlighting so-called 'endemic misogyny'.

A spokesperson for the Mayor's Office for Policing and Crime, said: 'The Mayor's Office for Policing and Crime (MOPAC) has undertaken a review of all of its partnership boards, including the VAWG Board, to enhance the strategic leadership of the criminal justice system for London and to standardise how all the boards are chaired.

'Our Boards bring together a broad range of experts and provide a plurality of viewpoints on the complex issues we are working to tackle. Joan Smith's expertise and insights on the VAWG Board have been valuable and we are grateful for her time and service.'

Wonder who they'll appoint instead?

Did you read the link I posted, incidentally?

GagaJo

No, I didn't say you were inferior. I said you were making unsubstantiated assertions. Fine, give facts. But if it's a fact, it's proveable.

You call me arrogant and then am insulted when I respond. What else is to be expected?

This should be a civil discussion for heavens sake. It is possible to disagree with someone without resorting to insult.

I agree that it is supposed to be a civilised discussion, but it is not easy when the insults and orders keep coming.

Maybe if you look back through the thread you will see that the version of events in your post above is completely wrong.

Chewbacca, you know what GNHQ do when they see a pile on as well as I do. They delete the thread. We've all seen it.

It's perfectly possible to disagree without lecturing or resorting to insult.

You and many others have been remarkably patient Doodledog, not once have you resorted to insulting anyone, despite blatant provocation.

Gagajo for someone who ends their posts with veiled threats as to "you know what will happen", your criticism of another poster's tone and manner is awesome!

No, I didn't say you were inferior. I said you were making unsubstantiated assertions. Fine, give facts. But if it's a fact, it's proveable.

You call me arrogant and then am insulted when I respond. What else is to be expected?

This should be a civil discussion for heavens sake. It is possible to disagree with someone without resorting to insult.

GagaJo

DD, you claim to be an expert but provide zero proof.

If you want me to believe something you say, the onus is on you to provide it. Evidence your claims.

Doodledog, will you stop talking down to me or I will just refuse to acknowledge your posts. This comment refers NOT to the link you've posted, merely the tone and manner of your writing.

Can’t you see the irony? You told me upthread that I was inferior, but I am talking down to you?

Doodledog, will you stop talking down to me or I will just refuse to acknowledge your posts. This comment refers NOT to the link you've posted, merely the tone and manner of your writing.

Thanks Chewbacca.

I really think that I have been remarkably patient throughout this, despite what can o my have been deliberate provocation, but the sheer arrogance of the last couple of pages has made me quite angry.

What about people with XXX? Or XXY? What are they?

Biology isn't neat. It isn't binary either.

I’ve never said I am an expert. Neither am I one of your pupils, so please drop the teachery tone. There is no onus on me to do anything at your behest - particularly when the last time I responded to one of your orders you refused to engage with the reply.

But here you go, as it is too much effort for you to do it yourself. First page of Google

Doodledog I think that the first line of your post @ 23.59 is pretty spot on to be fair. On looking back over all the pages of this thread, so many links, extracts, data, information references and anecdotal evidence has been provided, and all denounced as inadmissible. I have yet to see anything other than insults, threats and fingers in ears whilst shouting "you're all bigots" as a counter argument.

Women have 2 X chromosomes and female anatomy. Why is pointing this out transphobic bigotry?

DD, you claim to be an expert but provide zero proof.

If you want me to believe something you say, the onus is on you to provide it. Evidence your claims.

Rude? That was very restrained. I am sick of being lectured by someone who very clearly has no idea. If you want a link, Google it.

Women having the right to chose their own counsellor is what is happening. It has always been possible to insist on having a counsellor they are comfortable with. And it will continue to be that way.

Have you learnt nothing from the information provided in this thread Gagajo? The whole crux of this is because Mridul Wadhwa and his disciples are advocating that there are no guarantees that any woman who goes to the ERCC will be counselled, or physically examined post rape, by a natal woman. Although I posted this for you @ 01.12 yesterday, you either didn't read it, or didn't understand what it actually meant, so I'll post it for you again:

Last night I spent an hour on the phone with a heartbroken mother of a girl who was raped by a number of teenage boys and who did not get the support she needed because she was told that a woman counsellor could not be guaranteed. She developed PTSD.” As one woman who attended a meeting with the CEO of RCS wrote: “We reached out to be told that TW are not only women, but female too. The damage that meeting caused us. For so very long. The woman who should have helped us rode all over us. For men. And a fucked up belief in queer theory. What utter bastards. The lot of them.” Why is it so difficult in services that, according to Wadhwa, were “set up with the blood, sweat, and tears of women” and whose “workforce is reserved for women only” to guarantee that a female will be a counsellor if needed?

Do you not understand this? You're confidence that a victim of sexual assault can "choose a counsellor that they're comfortable with" is clearly at odds with both the CEO of the ERCC team and its users.

This video is very interesting. There is a LOT in it that isn't relevant, but he talks well about the social disruption due to the predominance of trans individuals being open about their experience in society, and how that is disrupting norms and values.

www.cccb.org/en/multimedia/videos/the-difference-between-male-and-female-does-not-hold-anymore/226095

Remember when you referenced being rude? 'you have no idea what you are talking about'. HOW is that not rude? The conversation has managed to move back into civility and you want to drag it down again?

I DO have some knowledge of this subject on a personal level. Now, obviously, I don't know ALL lesbians. So where you know this has happened, why not add a link? Rather than instantly going to insult?