Poor baby - run home to mummy!

Well the High Court is going to make sure he is served with the papers- no more hiding at Balmoral!

Agree Lucca

I can’t believe the ridiculous title of this thread has remained.

That’s just by the way,…

He said in that disastrous interview that he didn’t sweat , doubt
anyone believes that

I didn’t know Andrew cannot sweat, is that actually true?
Anyway, I agree Urmston, I bet he is sweating now, particularly since the High Court intervention yesterday.

Remember Andrew cannot sweat ... lol I'm sure he is now.

Fergie does seem cheerfully daft but she has made a living for herself and doesn't have to live with him
They seem like pals really.

It says something that Fergie has stuck by him all these years

It could be that she was struggling financially and, at rpthe risk of sounding unkind, she is as daft as a brush. She must be thankful that he took her back.

I think some men can completely compartmentalise. They have the ability to separate their own family life, being a loving father of daughters, from that of the sleazy side of their lives seeking the company of other men's more unfortunate young daughters.

You see marriage as a career Petra , that’s sad

I suspect that there were lots of middle aged men at that party. Young American girls may not be familiar with minor royals Guiffre may have been quite happy to pose for a photo with someone she was told was Prince Andrew. Doesn't mean she slept with him.
His big mistake was that awful TV interview. He'd have been better to maintain a dignified silence.
It says something that Fergie has stuck by him all these years. As mother if two young daughters I doubt she would have if he had been taking advantage of young girls.
Whatever the outcome, one way or the other the only ones to benefit from this are lawyers on both sides. Plus she and her charming parents can sell their stories to gossip magazines.

Anniebach

She wasn’t cast aside, she decided to opt out and get married.

ah, a career choice then?

Was Andrew incognito when he was visiting Maxwell and that is why you think Giuffre didn’t know who he was, Aveline? The plot thickens.

I'm sure she has now been told by her legal and PR team that thats Prince Andrew.

Coersive partners particularly like to spoil events that are important to their partner, so I dread to think how many beautiful pictures of happy birthdays, christmases and so on are hiding sadness.
Of course, that is only if they choose to spoil that particular day.

If they don't, it doesn't mean they are suddenly not coersive anymore.

I have been looking at old photos recently and I noticed how unhappy my Mum looks in some of them even though she is smiling

I'm sure lots of the women on gransnet who have posted about abusive exes had photos taken with them.
There are probably lots of seemingly happy family pictures.
Social media certainly certainly shows that to be true these days.

She's in a picture with PA.

She says PA assaulted her. (Yet to be proved, of course)

Presumably she knows who PA is, then.

Is being photographed with someone a criminal offence?

I don't know much about coercion.

But it seems I know shedloads more than you easybee.

Is your next post going to be about why all those women who are domestically abused don't just leave their partners?

She was allegedly coerced.
If the photograph is to be taken as evidence, does she look like someone acting under threats or force?
And I am well aware someone will tell me that came later, but as her father was with her in England I would find it hard to believe she was unable to escape.

Who's that in the picture Aveline? A stunt double?

This young American girl was told a middle aged man was Prince Andrew. Was he?

..........a lot of indigestion being suffered on this thread......repeat repeat repeat! take some rennies for relief.

She wasn’t cast aside, she decided to opt out and get married.

The sad thing is, this woman says she was used for sex by a variety of Epstein’s friends, and she accepted this abuse for who knows what reason. She was apparently recruited, abused, and cast aside. She was 17. And apparently nobody thought it was wrong. What a world we live in.