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Newatthis Mon 23-Aug-21 12:56:15

So, not only had Prince Andrew run home to mummy, The Queen has let it be known to the regiment that she wants the Duke of York to remain as colonel, and the feeling is that nobody wants to do anything that could cause upset to the colonel-in-chief.'
What about those who have been hurt by this so far by these allegations...... Diddums - poor Andrew, I wonder if The Queen spoon feeds him his breakfast and wipes his botty for him also!

www.itv.com/news/2021-08-22/queen-wants-duke-of-york-to-keep-honorary-military-role

Parsley3 Wed 15-Sept-21 11:29:10

Was Andrew incognito when he was visiting Maxwell and that is why you think Giuffre didn’t know who he was, Aveline? The plot thickens.

Petera Wed 15-Sept-21 11:46:55

Anniebach

She wasn’t cast aside, she decided to opt out and get married.

ah, a career choice then?

Aveline Wed 15-Sept-21 17:12:06

I suspect that there were lots of middle aged men at that party. Young American girls may not be familiar with minor royals Guiffre may have been quite happy to pose for a photo with someone she was told was Prince Andrew. Doesn't mean she slept with him.
His big mistake was that awful TV interview. He'd have been better to maintain a dignified silence.
It says something that Fergie has stuck by him all these years. As mother if two young daughters I doubt she would have if he had been taking advantage of young girls.
Whatever the outcome, one way or the other the only ones to benefit from this are lawyers on both sides. Plus she and her charming parents can sell their stories to gossip magazines.

Anniebach Wed 15-Sept-21 17:35:16

You see marriage as a career Petra , that’s sad

Callistemon Wed 15-Sept-21 21:19:28

It says something that Fergie has stuck by him all these years

It could be that she was struggling financially and, at rpthe risk of sounding unkind, she is as daft as a brush. She must be thankful that he took her back.

I think some men can completely compartmentalise. They have the ability to separate their own family life, being a loving father of daughters, from that of the sleazy side of their lives seeking the company of other men's more unfortunate young daughters.

Aveline Wed 15-Sept-21 21:48:01

Fergie does seem cheerfully daft but she has made a living for herself and doesn't have to live with him
They seem like pals really.

Urmstongran Wed 15-Sept-21 22:55:33

Remember Andrew cannot sweat ... lol I'm sure he is now.

maddyone Thu 16-Sept-21 10:57:15

I didn’t know Andrew cannot sweat, is that actually true?
Anyway, I agree Urmston, I bet he is sweating now, particularly since the High Court intervention yesterday.

Anniebach Thu 16-Sept-21 11:33:18

He said in that disastrous interview that he didn’t sweat , doubt
anyone believes that

Lucca Thu 16-Sept-21 12:28:17

I can’t believe the ridiculous title of this thread has remained.

That’s just by the way,…

Anniebach Thu 16-Sept-21 12:30:25

Agree Lucca

trisher Thu 16-Sept-21 14:47:22

Well the High Court is going to make sure he is served with the papers- no more hiding at Balmoral!

maddyone Thu 16-Sept-21 16:50:20

Good, I’m pleased trisher. No one is above the law, although I am aware that this is a civil case.

Grany Fri 17-Sept-21 09:53:13

Lots of coverage now of Billboards around the country.

Prince Philip's will to be secret for 90 years
A judge says he made the ruling, in line with other royal deaths, to protect the Queen's dignity.

For someone with no proper job since 1947 he seemed to do awfully well financially. On a Parliamentary 'allowance' of £359k pa, that the Queen didn't have to reimburse the Treasury for, he'd amassed an estimated £28m by around 2000..

If anything, the monarch’s “constitutional role” should mean more transparency about her finances, not less.

See also FOI requests which they are largely exempt from.

Mad that we have a supposedly neutral head of state but no way of actually checking in on that.

It should be said that there’s no legal basis for this. It is just convention since the royals wanted to cover up a scandal at the start of the last century.

This from former royal guard all they all do is shake hands for charity.

twitter.com/LBC/status/1438561651154989056?s=20

maddyone Fri 17-Sept-21 10:01:11

I agree Grany that there should be transparency with the royal family’s finances.

Parsley3 Fri 17-Sept-21 10:03:16

Prince Phillip’s will is to be sealed for 90 years. We won’t know how much he was worth.

trisher Fri 17-Sept-21 10:07:13

That is shocking. Can any of the RF supporters explain how this is acceptable?

maddyone Fri 17-Sept-21 10:38:07

As the RF receive public money there finances need to be transparent. As I understand it, correct me if I’m wrong, normally wills are not sealed and therefore presumably they can be seen by anyone if they have a mind to look. This shows that the establishment is firmly behind protecting the RF and whatever finances they have. I cannot see what harm can possibly be done by not sealing the wills.

Petera Fri 17-Sept-21 11:26:58

maddyone

As the RF receive public money there finances need to be transparent. As I understand it, correct me if I’m wrong, normally wills are not sealed and therefore presumably they can be seen by anyone if they have a mind to look. This shows that the establishment is firmly behind protecting the RF and whatever finances they have. I cannot see what harm can possibly be done by not sealing the wills.

You are correct, wills are public documents after probate.

Aveline Fri 17-Sept-21 12:19:17

Are all Royal wills publicly available? Just wondering if this is a one off situation.

maddyone Fri 17-Sept-21 12:20:01

Sorry, typo, it should be their not there. Thanks for the info Petera.

Smileless2012 Fri 17-Sept-21 12:27:36

I wouldn't class myself as a RF supporter and I'm not saying it's right but I'm not interested in his will.

Petera Fri 17-Sept-21 12:27:37

Aveline

Are all Royal wills publicly available? Just wondering if this is a one off situation.

I believe that the Queen (or I suppose more correctly The Palace) went to court to stop her mother's will being published. Although they later bowed to pressure and release some, though not all, details.

The real point of course is that if this is regarded as intrusive for the Queen why is not intrusive for everyone else?

maddyone Fri 17-Sept-21 12:41:39

I guess it’s because they want to hide their wealth Petera. I can’t think of another reason to seal royal, or anyone else’s will.

Alegrias1 Fri 17-Sept-21 12:44:45

Smileless2012

I wouldn't class myself as a RF supporter and I'm not saying it's right but I'm not interested in his will.

Me too Smileless2012.

For me, one of the least important things about the RF is how much money they have and who they decide to leave it to.