Poor baby - run home to mummy!

Germanshepherdsmum

For heaven’s sake, do you expect him to live in a semi on a rough estate?

Oh is it either the large number of homes he has or a semi on a rough estate ?

Well said Annie. I believe Charles is a very genuine man who cares about many things and will be an interesting king. I haven’t been to any of the royal homes but from what I’ve read the maintenance and mod cons leave a bit to be desired.

I think Charles is one of the better members of that family. He seems to be thoughtful and intelligent and have his own opinions.

Charles doesn’t own Clarence House, really he like me lives in council property.

This is the best yet...

Its just like a semi in a run down estate, really. Except they don't usually have Royal Standards, obviously.

I do not live in a semi in a run down estate , so many have the same ‘look down nose’ at the mention of council owned
accommodation.

My post was in reply to Alegrias1

How silly , I fly the Welsh flag.

Germanshepherdsmum

Well said Annie. I believe Charles is a very genuine man who cares about many things and will be an interesting king. I haven’t been to any of the royal homes but from what I’ve read the maintenance and mod cons leave a bit to be desired.

He doesent care enough to let tennents buy land causing them hardship, even though other landlords by law now have to. It's always take take take. The Duchy roads are not maintained. He doesn't pay capital gains tax or corporation tax even though the Duchy is run like a business a big conglomerate giving him an unfair advantage. Watch The man who shouldn't be king, to find out more on Republic Campaign YouTube channel.

I didn't say it wasn't palatial Alegrias I said it wasn't as palatial as I expected and was a bit grubby.

Grany I have no desire to watch this stuff on YouTube, nor to correct your ideas on tenants’ rights or taxation. Why don’t you go and live in a commune in a communist country, sounds like it would be utopia for you.

Anniebach

I do not live in a semi in a run down estate , so many have the same ‘look down nose’ at the mention of council owned
accommodation.

My parents have lived in 2 houses during their married life. The first was a 2-roomed flat with no inside toilet that was officially designated a slum so the council eventually moved them out when I came along. They upgraded to a two-bedroom council flat in a block of 4, where they still are today.

It wasn't me who said that council estates aren't suitable for our pampered heir to the throne. Be careful who you suggest is looking down their nose at anybody.

Algerrias1, you copied and pasted my post and gave your reply to it .

Please do not tell me ‘be careful’, it could be taken as a threat

OK, I withdraw it.

Let me say this instead. Its very unpleasant when people think you are looking down your nose at others, when you, yourself, have had hardships of which they know nothing. I wish that didn't happen and that people were more circumspect before accusing others.

Royal Secrets. A Report on Royal Secrecy and Power

The secrecy surrounding the royals has been likened to that of Britain's security services during the Cold War. The monarchy is certainly one of the country's most secretive institutions, gaining access to ministers without any chance of scrutiny, spending public money without proper accountability.

This report goes to the heart of what is wrong with an unaccountable, hereditary institution. This is why democratic values need to be infused into every corner of the state. Yet this report also makes clear that the monarchy is in a difficult position, that it has now become dependent on secrecy to survive. End the secrecy and we may well end the monarchy.

Down with the Royals
When Prince George was just eight weeks old, the Evening Standard declared him to be 'the most influential person in London'. He couldn't even walk, let alone talk. Yet one day he could become head of state, whether we like it or not. Joan Smith argues that it has become nearly impossible to question the existence of the monarchy. Articulate republicans are drowned out while the supercharged PR and media machines ask only who designed Kate's dresses. Smith topples the arguments for having a monarchy, one by one. The royals don't provide a boost for tourism, and their deliberately opaque accounting conceals the truth about the huge burden they place on the public purse. And she exposes darker truths.

These symbols of so-called impartiality have hidden power and influence. Not only does Charles regularly lobby government ministers but - far from the sycophantic reporting of Kate's baby bump - the royals have dined with despots with blood on their hands. Are these people really fi t to be the public face of a modern country? Ultimately, Smith declares that the monarchy - undemocratic, unaccountable and shockingly expensive - has no place in modern Britain.

Grany 8 week old babies don’t walk or let alone talk

I keep saying this, what do you propose in its place?
A President? Take a look around the world and come back
to me.
Be thankfull for what you have anything else could be even more expensive

If we had a president then Charles or William or George could stand for election, be voted in and then everyone would be happy. Job done.

Everyone would be happy ? Can’t recall any election which left
everyone happy

halfpint1

I keep saying this, what do you propose in its place?
A President? Take a look around the world and come back
to me.
Be thankfull for what you have anything else could be even more expensive

You take a look there are presidents that are elected and do a wonderful job. Take the presidents of Ireland or Germany as an example clever accomplished and respected people in their own right. The monarchy is very expensive a president elected to do the job queen can't do would cost a fraction of cost of monarchy There would be a PM too. And a properly written down constitution.

The monarchy is corrupt in public office for private gain. Queen's consent should be scrapped allows her to vet legislation and change laws especially thoses that effect her own private interests, how convenient no one else can do that.

She will be at cop 26 even though she lobbied for change to environment laws covering land and the vast land she has could be used to re wild instead of burning for grouse shooting. The 1% richest are the worst polluters using jets helicopters and having the use of many State owned grand homes.

The president of Ireland was leader of the Labour Party

If there was a President of some sort they would presumably be for a fixed term - besides the running costs of State buildings - there is no guarantee that the person would be a good leader or not become a dictator as in a number of countries round the world.
People visit U.K. because they want to see the Queen etc and the pageantry that exists for some occasions. Britain would lose so much again. I know there are republicans and they will never change their minds and I have thought about it all and came to the conclusion that things are probably best left as they are.
If Charles becomes King he is likely to do environmentally good things and William is highly likely to be a moderniser. They do have their own sources of income and William is set to take over the Duchy estates.
I find having one regular election less with the years of speculation and electioneering and probably a very rich person winning is a big bonus - at least we know where we stand!

Thank goodness there are some good Presidents.
However how much does it cost to elect an American President,
billions and every 4 years, on top of which the last 2 ageing men have'nt turned out too well. Where does the money come from - big business - so who is really running the country and for whose benefit?

If we were to have a president I am sure it would become about
politics .
The German President was minister of foreign affairs.

I am sure that Charles would stand as an independent in such an election. I would give him a vote.

halfpint1

I keep saying this, what do you propose in its place?
A President? Take a look around the world and come back
to me.
Be thankfull for what you have anything else could be even more expensive

Many of us have explained this on GN, many, many times. If you really want to know, read some of the many, many royal/republican threads that explain how this works in detail. Its really not an original comeback to ask who we would recommend instead and think you've outwitted the Republicans, we really have thought about this.

As for being thankful for what we have, if that was a good way to run a country we'd still have serfdom.