Ofcom have cleared Piers Morgan for saying on GMTV he doesn't believe a word MM says

coastalgran

The ruling is fair and just and possibly a warning to anyone else who wishes to bully the broadcasting authorities in any country to do what they want because of their status.

I had to read this a couple of times to understand what you meant.

It was confusing to me because I thought you meant that PM was the bully, which he is of course.

Thanks for your insight Blossoming ?

Surely their self-perceived status.

Great post coastalgran.

The ruling is fair and just and possibly a warning to anyone else who wishes to bully the broadcasting authorities in any country to do what they want because of their status.

Ladyleftfieldlover

I agree, Saetna. He seems a very unpleasant man. He obviously has his favourites (trump) but if you don’t agree with him you are nothing better than something nasty on his shoe. I won’t even talk about K Hopkins, who was recently deported from Australia.

He can be but I've seen programmes with children and vulnerable people and he has seemed genuinely very nice with them. Hopefully he isn't all bad.

"being controversial for the sake of it and to get attention" ..

sounds like one M. Markle to me.

I agree, Saetna. He seems a very unpleasant man. He obviously has his favourites (trump) but if you don’t agree with him you are nothing better than something nasty on his shoe. I won’t even talk about K Hopkins, who was recently deported from Australia.

Piers Morgan has had it in for Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, ever since she met him once and then gaslighted him (possibly advised to by Harry given PM's track record in the media?). He is obsessed with her and has not got one single good word to say about her - and a lot of very nasty ones. He will not let it drop and stormed off set when Alex Beresford challenged him on his biased views. I cannot stand the man - he, along with Katie Hopkins, are what I call "professional trolls", ie they are being controversial just for the sake of it and to get attention.

Alegrias1

This is how rumours start....

It wasn't PM who used the word. Ailidh Too much even for him.

Haha, rumours gu leòr!!!

As to being conquered: Wha' daur meddle wi' me/Cha togar m' fhearg gun dìoladh/Nemo me impune lacessit.

For many years I have made a point of looking up the meaning of words I don't properly understand, now so much simpler with the advent of search engines, particularly where initials are used in what I would call text speak (probably an outdated term).

Not so much freedom of speech but taking care in your choice of words and expressions.

My understanding of the word bint, not heard of it for years, was as a slang alternative to bird or totty, meaning female companion or girlfriend of no particular standing, but not demeaning or derogatory.

Well it was Fanny, but I'm team Fanny on this one

Its very difficult to know isn't it?

We can use derogatory descriptions for women, but we can't use abbreviations that some people think contain a swear word. You have to be so careful what you say these days, what happened to freedom of speech? (Wish they had a sarcasm emoji)

And we're back to Piers.....

Alegrias1

I digress...

Somebody just used an abbreviation on another thread which has two meanings, one of which includes a swear word. I've used the abbreviation before without knowing the sweary meaning. So now I'll stop using it because I don't want to offend anyone. I did think about stomping around saying everyone was denying my experience and everybody uses it and what's the problem anyway.

But I won't.

Oh Lord, it was me, wasn’t it?
I’ve caused a load of bother again

FannyCornforth

Jennifer is it Morgan’s job to report the news or comment upon it?
The BBC and independent TV, and radio, have such different rules etc

I don’t think GMB is actually The News. As far as I know it’s a magazine style programme but we rarely have the tv on before 7 pm especially now that we are packing for our move.

PM was no doubt hired for his outspoken opinions so the faux outrage made his coworkers and the tv company look ridiculous.

MM used him to get contacts in the U.K. then dumped him as she seems to do to anyone who has outlived their usefulness.

His male ego was bruised no doubt as he didn’t see through her manipulation but she is hardly an innocent where media is concerned.

He says he won’t be going back as he has advanced plans of his own. Perhaps he will sue for constructive dismissal?

Dick is a perfectly acceptable and quite common surname.

But you wouldn't go around calling people dicks because you don't like them, would you? Well, maybe some would.

Alegrias1

I digress...

Somebody just used an abbreviation on another thread which has two meanings, one of which includes a swear word. I've used the abbreviation before without knowing the sweary meaning. So now I'll stop using it because I don't want to offend anyone. I did think about stomping around saying everyone was denying my experience and everybody uses it and what's the problem anyway.

But I won't.

What was it, Alegrias1?

And back to Bint, what about the Bints who were neighbours of ours? Are they supposed to change their name?

I digress...

Somebody just used an abbreviation on another thread which has two meanings, one of which includes a swear word. I've used the abbreviation before without knowing the sweary meaning. So now I'll stop using it because I don't want to offend anyone. I did think about stomping around saying everyone was denying my experience and everybody uses it and what's the problem anyway.

But I won't.

Whatdayisit

The post said 'Harry's bint' well MM isn't Harry's daughter. It was being used in a derogtory way in this instance and unnecessarily. Why are derogatory words for women acceptable on a mostly female forum. Yes the word does mean that in our area it has meant a worthless woman maybe that is the Arabic translation anyway. Do we need to go to that level.

It means daughter or young woman/girl in Arabic. So it doesn't really apply to her as she's too old.

As more than one of us has said it isn't universally used in a derogatory way it means a girl or young woman in some parts of the country.

The post said 'Harry's bint' well MM isn't Harry's daughter. It was being used in a derogtory way in this instance and unnecessarily. Why are derogatory words for women acceptable on a mostly female forum. Yes the word does mean that in our area it has meant a worthless woman maybe that is the Arabic translation anyway. Do we need to go to that level.

Oh, don't get me started..... ?????

Alegrias1

If in doubt, resort to questioning the poster's intelligence.

I understand that many words have come into common use in English from many sources, not just when Britain "went out to conquer the world". I understand that some links say moolah is the Fijian word for money, others say its the Fijian word for moth. Maybe a native Fijian speaker will come along and tell us the truth.

I understand that there are some words which people use having no understanding of their interpretation in the 21st Century and I guess we'll just have to live with that.

Right then, away to shout slogans galore before I put on my trousers and go for a shindig (Loan words, Scots Gaelic. We weren't conquered.)

Last time I looked Scotland was still part of Britain so don't know what being conquered has to do with it.

This is how rumours start....

It wasn't PM who used the word. Ailidh Too much even for him.

Did PM call MM the Arabic word for daughter? (Or did I just get lost in the thread?)

If so, then that's just a shoddy way of speaking in public about anybody.

I was quite surprised by some of the dictionary definitions. Certainly in my part of the world Arabic word for daughter is Not the same as Fruit Pie; it generally means a bit of a twit, and is usually prefaced by "Dozy" ~ not very pleasant but not containing moral aspersions.

If in doubt, resort to questioning the poster's intelligence.

I understand that many words have come into common use in English from many sources, not just when Britain "went out to conquer the world". I understand that some links say moolah is the Fijian word for money, others say its the Fijian word for moth. Maybe a native Fijian speaker will come along and tell us the truth.

I understand that there are some words which people use having no understanding of their interpretation in the 21st Century and I guess we'll just have to live with that.

Right then, away to shout slogans galore before I put on my trousers and go for a shindig (Loan words, Scots Gaelic. We weren't conquered.)

Alegrias1

I can't believe that you are trying to conflate the insulting use of a word for women with adoption of words like pyjamas .

I'm not interested in your links Had enough of experts, have you?

Maybe the language used in the area you come from is derogatory and you just didn't know it? There's a word for gypsies in the area I come from that we all used to use but we don't use it any more because its derogatory . Sheesh.

But you carry on with your lived experience.

Perhaps you don't understand the connection. The British went out to conquer the world, they borrowed lots of words including pyjamas, moolah (I notice you have given up on that one) and bint.

Are you ready to admit that in Arabic bint doesn't just mean daughter?