Ofcom have cleared Piers Morgan for saying on GMTV he doesn't believe a word MM says

Ellie Anne

I don’t particularly like him but he is entitled to his opinion. It’s worrying that people are having to be so careful what they say nowadays

Does this mean the duke and Duchess of Sussex should also be allowed to voice their opinions?

It seems many PM supporters want them to never be allowed to be heard from again

PM is a loathsome creature , but I think OFCOM were right. and Princess Pinocchio is a suitable moniker for herself.

Ellie Anne

I don’t particularly like him but he is entitled to his opinion. It’s worrying that people are having to be so careful what they say nowadays

So much better in the good old days when people could express all sorts of nasty views eh

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"So much better in the good old days when people could express all sorts of nasty views eh" you mean like H&M do today Lucca.

How do you know about the news at 6 if you never watch it?

What is Prince Harry's bint? And who is Melissa Messenger? Sorry to sound dense... I have no tv.

I reckon his bint is a folder, filled full of sayings like "Live, laugh, love".
Whenever he is due to do a speech, he sends Melissa to fetch one from said bint, and bases the speech around whatever Melissa unearths.
That's why she is a messenger.

Its ages since I have heard the word bint, thankfully.

Hmmm.... ok, thanks MissA.

MerylStreep, I stand corrected. I remembered an investigation of him re insider dealing and got muddled.
theworriedwell, I don't watch him but unfortunately others in our house do so it was difficult to miss as everyone was home during the pandemic thus I got to hear him shouting over the politicians.

Chewbacca

What is Prince Harry's bint? And who is Melissa Messenger? Sorry to sound dense... I have no tv.

Somebody being deregotary unnecessarily.

I believe bint is originally from the Arabic and British soldiers used it to refer to women. Many people seem to see it as rude, I think it depends where you are as where I am from in the 60s it was just a reference to a young woman.

icanhandthemback

*MerylStreep*, I stand corrected. I remembered an investigation of him re insider dealing and got muddled.
theworriedwell, I don't watch him but unfortunately others in our house do so it was difficult to miss as everyone was home during the pandemic thus I got to hear him shouting over the politicians.

So perhaps you weren't aware he was shutting them down when they started to answer a question he hadn't answered?

theworriedwell

I believe bint is originally from the Arabic and British soldiers used it to refer to women. Many people seem to see it as rude, I think it depends where you are as where I am from in the 60s it was just a reference to a young woman.

The people from my dad's generation had lots of colourful descriptive names for the people they met in foreign parts whilst in the services. Just because they thought they were acceptable then doesn't mean they are not considered rude now.

www.dictionary.com/browse/bint

Alegrias1, if you have a look at what I said I wasn't talking about people from your dad's generation using colourful descriptive names for people, I was talking about them using a word from a local language. As I went on to say it could be regional as when I was a teenager it wasn't used in a derogatory way, it was a word used to mean a young woman.

Have you ever heard money referred to as moolah? Just the same thing, using a word from another language as a slang word here. Or do you think it is rude to call money moolah?

I didn’t know that it was considered offensive.
I’ve always liked the word. A little bit cheeky and archaic.
I’ve referred to myself as a bint quite often, but now I learn that I’m more than likely too old to be one!

FannyCornforth

I didn’t know that it was considered offensive.
I’ve always liked the word. A little bit cheeky and archaic.
I’ve referred to myself as a bint quite often, but now I learn that I’m more than likely too old to be one!

Maybe we come from the same part of the country. It's funny how people assume words are always used in the same way in all areas.

Did you look at the link I posted? I picked out out of many but they all said it was derogatory. Its also the Arabic word for daughter, but I don't think that all these people using it to refer to women they think are no better than they should be are quoting Arabic to show their admiration and knowledge for that language and culture.

Moolah, incidentally, is of unknown origin and is not used to refer to people. Unless you know different.

Oh no! I’ve just read the definition linked by Alegrias.
I’ve already been called ‘disparaging’ on another thread this very morning!
(Ergo, I am a disparaging bint)

What does it actually mean though?

It just says that it’s ‘a contemptuous term for a woman’. Who says? Where is the contempt derived from? (I hope I’m making sense here.)

If it’s just another word for woman, why is it not acceptable?
Are there any ‘contemptuous terms’ for a man?

Moolah refers to money and is again a word we borrowed from the wider world due to colonisation and the military occupation of other countries. Go to Fiji and tell them there is known origin of moolah. We have imported many words over time, pyjamas, bungalows etc.

I'm not interested in your links, my BIL is an Arab and he tells me it doesn't just mean daughter, it can be used for daughter or a young woman. As a patronym it denotes daughter of. British soldiers in Egypt started using the word and it came into use in England. In the area I grew up in it was not used in a derogatory way, FannyCornforth seems to have had a similar experience. I don't need a link to tell me how language is used in the area I come from.

FannyCornforth

What does it actually mean though?

It just says that it’s ‘a contemptuous term for a woman’. Who says? Where is the contempt derived from? (I hope I’m making sense here.)

If it’s just another word for woman, why is it not acceptable?
Are there any ‘contemptuous terms’ for a man?

In Arabic it means a girl or a daughter. It can be used in a name to denote you are the daughter of and then father's name. So you might be Leila bint Abdul, or Leila daughter of Abdul.

Apparently it is not acceptable because someone decided that without consulting all of us.