Supply chain and HGD shortages

Well said MOnica. My son in law is a lorry driver and dreams of getting his HGV licence but it remains a dream with a family to support and a mortgage to pay while everything ( including school uniforms !!) is becoming more and more expensive.

I love a good double act

Funny how Brexit supporters will never admit to anything negative being the result of Brexit, or if it is undeniable it’s because the EU are “punishing us”.
I’m sure Brexit supporters are glad that imports of pork from the EU are going up at the same time as British pork is unable to be produced( pigs killed in other words) because of a shortage of abattoir and meat processing plant workers, Perhaps they could have “kill your own” farms to get over this problem. No wonder businesses are relocating to the EU or setting up offices in Dublin.

Waitress was half empty yesterday apart from the wine section.

Nothing to do with Brexit but you just carry on and say that if it makes you feel better. Please explain why there is also a shortage of HGV drivers in various European countries and also in USA. Is that also due to mostly Brexit?

what a shambles this gov't is, I don't know how Boris has the cheek to show his face since the lie on the side of the bus is now so obviously a lie, and not the only one. The thing is I take their point that there are so many people without a job they could pick the produce in the farms but very few of them actually live near growing areas but in cramped overcrowded suburbs of cities.

Buttercup1954

Nothing to do with Brexit but you just carry on and say that if it makes you feel better. Please explain why there is also a shortage of HGV drivers in various European countries and also in USA. Is that also due to mostly Brexit?

Do people really not read the threads?

I (and others) get laughed at for posting evidence and then people come along and completely ignore what other people have said and persist in their delusions.

Funny old world. RTFT. (F=full)

Over the last few weeks we have had people crying in the street because they could not get a McDonald’s Milkshake, and posting on social media that they were ‘devastated’ when they couldn’t get Nando’s chicken.

Yes, there are a few shortages, but thank goodness these people weren’t around to live through food shortages and rationing during the war years or aren’t in Afghanistan right now - how would they cope?

Why not use the railways again for haulage?

I watched a program on war time cookery, so I guess I'd be ok

Just like that

Re the railways comment

The railways could transport all the dried egg

JaneJudge

The railways could transport all the dried egg

And the spam.

lemongrove

M0nica

They are certyainly running scared now.

Really?!
A few temporary shortages.....I think we will all manage just fine, running scared indeed?
As one who happily voted for us to leave the EU ( amongst over 17 million others) I can say that if the vote was held again tomorrow I would be voting the same way.

And if you voted again - to leave - what would you expect to gain, and what would you be prepared to lose?

In Tesco this morning and large gaps on all the shelves and over here we have all the form filling and checks for the lorries coming in now too. Also they are now saying medicines will be the next problem as we won't be able to get certain ones, it's all a right pain in the proverbial.

There has been a shortage of HGV drivers for years but nothing was done about it. Brexit is not the sole reason for this shortage of drivers.

Larsonsmum

Over the last few weeks we have had people crying in the street because they could not get a McDonald’s Milkshake, and posting on social media that they were ‘devastated’ when they couldn’t get Nando’s chicken.

Yes, there are a few shortages, but thank goodness these people weren’t around to live through food shortages and rationing during the war years or aren’t in Afghanistan right now - how would they cope?

BINGO!

I must admit to being a bit confused over the European driver thing.

If they were already here, and in employment, then aren't they still allowed to be here and work?

Brexit didn't mean that all European workers had to leave the UK, so why is it that we now have a scarcity of HGV drivers?

HurdyGurdy
Just because they were here working that didn’t mean that they necessarily lived here.
Now, ( if they are living here they have to apply for a visa which isn’t as simple as it sounds. My daughter has just done it for her next door neighbour. This woman was quoted £500 for doing this. It is hideously complicated.
Most of language used would be completely incomprehensible to the average lay person let alone one who’s first language isn’t English.

Thousands of EU truck drivers left the UK last year. Contrary to popular opinion, the world is not banging down the door to get into our country. So when a large tranche of the population voted to say that they didn't think EU people should be in our country, those same EU people said "fair enough, we're off to where they do want us"

Like most of us said would happen.

We shall never know how Brexit would have worked or not because of COVID. A perfect unexpected storm. There are some shortages but really if you can't find one thing there is always something else just needs flexibility. Surely they need to do something about the cost of becoming an HGV driver, their pay and conditions.

We shall never know how Brexit would have worked or not because of COVID.

Oh, I think we will.

Those who think the staff shortages in lorry drivers, hospitality, NHS, food processing, agriculture, social care etc has “nothing to do with Brexit” really are living in cloud cuckoo land

We definitely will, you are right Alegrias1. I don’t think that in 10 years time people will be saying that Brexit didn’t work because of Covid - or if they do it will be the same people who blame the Labour Government for everything now, when the Tories have been in power for 11 years.