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MissAdventure Sat 18-Sept-21 19:38:40

What do you think of a child missing 3 days of school in order to have a holiday?
I am usually an a absolute stickler for "the rules" but in this instance, I think I may have to break them.

welbeck Mon 20-Sept-21 20:32:14

so what, pay the fine. why are people so scared of a fine.
that wouldn't put me off, if i had the money to pay the fine.
the boy's well-being is more important.

silverlining48 Mon 20-Sept-21 20:29:59

Absolutely agree Ican. So very sorry for your loss, you will better understand the situation more than most.

icanhandthemback Mon 20-Sept-21 20:22:26

As an ex-teacher and not knowing the fully back story except what I've read on this thread, I would say the mental health wellbeing will far outweigh whatever he will learn in school in those 3 days that he is not in school, especially as a bright pupil. It is a nonsense to say that is just another burden for the teacher. The amount kids learn at that age in 3 days by the time you have breaks taken out, moving from class to class, getting the kids settled down, etc, is actually quite small. Most decent schools have a lot of the teaching on the children's learning space so it would be perfectly possible to avoid putting any pressure on the teacher and other children are usually happy to help each other. One thing I wouldn't do is to encourage a child to lie. I wouldn't discuss the "rule breaking" with them either so the boundaries aren't blurred.
We had a similar circumstance when we lost our daughter. One school was understanding, the other said no way to the holiday our family had bought for us so we could heal together. I just wrote and told them that I was sorry but in these circumstances we were going. The children had to keep a diary, do currency changes, they learned to swim and we went to museums. The child whose school refused learned more in that time away than he ever would have in school; quite frankly they failed him at every step but that is an entirely different story.
I hope your Grandson has a lovely, bonding time.

Harris27 Mon 20-Sept-21 20:21:43

3 days not going to harm him.

Chewbacca Mon 20-Sept-21 20:21:35

Comparing missing school decades ago is apples and oranges. And your point is......?

Lucca Mon 20-Sept-21 20:19:34

Hithere

Comparing missing school decades ago is apples and oranges.

Irrelevant comment. Suggesting that student might expect a class to be disrupted to help him catch up 3 days work(or indeed a week or three) is completely ridiculous . That just does NOT happen .

Callistemon Mon 20-Sept-21 19:57:05

Hithere

Comparing missing school decades ago is apples and oranges.

I do realise that as there was no help in those extremely faraway days but there is so much these days with the internet.

Callistemon Mon 20-Sept-21 19:55:51

Yes, I was comparing 3 days with 3 weeks too!! Indefensible.

He'll be fine, MissA

It's a money-spinner too - fines raise £millions

Hithere Mon 20-Sept-21 19:52:39

Comparing missing school decades ago is apples and oranges.

Callistemon Mon 20-Sept-21 19:41:08

I remember missing 3 weeks of school with Asian flu at the same age, MissA - because I caught it after everyone else, they'd all gone back and lessons continued for them.

No private tuition, extra lessons, BBC Bitesize or help in those days so I just caught up as best I could (I think I borrowed someone else's notes and copied them up).
I seemed to pass all my exams somehow.

silverlining48 Mon 20-Sept-21 19:28:15

Indeed MissA brewcupcakehmmflowers

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 19:22:31

I think I may have to self isolate after some of the responses in this thread! grin

Chewbacca Mon 20-Sept-21 19:18:56

It is not the 3 days, it is how fast student can catch up without expecting the teacher and class to adapt and compensate

Absolute tosh! MissAdventure has said, several times, that her GS is very bright, academically ahead of his peer group and will easily catch up anything he misses. She isn't asking a teacher to to do any adapting or compensating, the boy is perfectly capable of catching up himself.

As for JTelles7's comment Get him a private tutor. If you can’t get him a tutor then should he be left to struggle in classes. You need to think through the consequences of your action. Parents must not bleet having taken their children out of school and then demand teachers pick up the slack they created. I think you missed a few English Comprehension lessons yourself. You've clearly missed relevant and salient information provided in the OP, and her subsequent posts, but decided to post your rather unpleasant judgemental post anyway.

Tell them he's self isolating *MissAdventure, they'll thank you for keeping him off school!

sazz1 Mon 20-Sept-21 19:13:28

My DGC missed so much time in primary school that their attendance was almost 50%. This was due to chronic asthma, needing repeated hospital stays and oxygen due to pneumonia and collapsed lungs during episodes. School called in son and DIL who provided hospital and GP letters as proof. Now at senior school yr 9 they are top of their year in physics and maths. Asthma is better controlled with daily medication so only one episode a year now.
So if the child is very intelligent I wouldn't worry about 3 days OP.
Let him enjoy his brother's company.

V3ra Mon 20-Sept-21 18:58:09

MissAdventure

I could say a whole lot about goes unconcerned the teachers were when we really needed support, but I won't.

This is so sad, and it sounds like the school are more concerned with covering their backs with the authorities rather than caring for the "whole child."

Your two grandsons are each others' future. If they're ready to start venturing out into the world together and start consolidating their relationship it needs doing now.
You're very wise to take a step back and support them both. There is more to this than just a holiday.

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 18:54:20

I was expecting a mixed bag of responses.
I wasn't wrong there!

Hetty58 Mon 20-Sept-21 18:44:20

Of course he'll be fine. I'm just amazed at some of the comments!

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 18:29:26

He has never needed any extra attention or help before, through things far more than 3 days off school.
He did the best of year in his sats; despite the timing.

Lucca Mon 20-Sept-21 18:24:58

Hithere

Jtelles7 is right.

It is not the 3 days, it is how fast student can catch up without expecting the teacher and class to adapt and compensate

A bright child does not expect or need the teacher class to adapt if three days are missed. That is utter nonsense.

MissAdventure Mon 20-Sept-21 18:19:28

grin

Lucca Mon 20-Sept-21 18:13:22

Milliedog

People are correct when they say that education isn't confined to the classroom. However, the child will miss the lessons his classmates will do in the classroom. Will you expect his teacher to help him catch up what he's missed on the 3 days in her lunch time or breaks? Or will you be paying for extra out of school tuition for him? Or will you be happy that he may miss out on some 'bedrock' work which will mean he will find future work more difficult? This sounds harsh but I'm an ex teacher.... I would have loved to have had cheap holidays or gone on holiday with older family members in term time.

I’m an ex teacher too .
Have you read the thread ??.?
IT IS THREE DAYS
THE CHILD IS VERY BRIGHT
Ha e you read the thread ???

I’m on the point of using some bad language.m

Janiepops Mon 20-Sept-21 18:13:11

In 20, 30, 40 years from now, 3 missed days will be minuscule! my 6 kids had more time off than that for appendicitis, hernias, fevers, tumours,chicken pox, tons of stuff! They all went to Uni, all qualified as Accountants, consultants, I.T, blah de blah….. your GS won’t even remember in 20 years, he’ll easily catch up! But bonding with brother is MASSIVELY important for his future life, bonding/ fighting/arguing/sharing. Making memories is vital for shared experiences. Shared grieving can be healing.My sons constantly talk of “ Do you remember such and such….’ Shared memories are comforting.Let him go, to love, to build better bonds, this time next year it’ll mean nothing, those that object need to “walk a mile in your shoes”. Battle on Grandma, you deserve a medal!

Hithere Mon 20-Sept-21 18:13:02

Jtelles7 is right.

It is not the 3 days, it is how fast student can catch up without expecting the teacher and class to adapt and compensate

Lucca Mon 20-Sept-21 18:09:59

JTelles7

If you want to take the child out of school and he misses lessons then you must not expect teachers to help him catch up. Get him a private tutor. If you can’t get him a tutor then should he be left to struggle in classes. You need to think through the consequences of your action. Parents must not bleet having taken their children out of school and then demand teachers pick up the slack they created.

A private tutor for 3 days missed lessons.??? Are you for real ?

Hetty58 Mon 20-Sept-21 17:59:10

btw - yes, I do think it's funny - and no, I wouldn't tell them to lie. Teachers (including me) are generally understanding - but have to follow the rules. (The schools's reputation is paramount.) We do know who's been on holiday - and a whole wealth of embarrassing family secrets too!

Some children catch all the coughs and colds going - so are often absent. Others attend nearly every day. I've never noticed any correlation between attendance and achievement.

I did feel very sorry for the parents who were fined (twice, both mother and father) when they asked, were refused, but still took two children abroad for a family wedding. The system just isn't fair.