Gransnet forums

Chat

The image of the royal family

(327 Posts)
Bluebellwould Sun 31-Oct-21 13:25:05

I know old(er) people are not useless and slung on the scrap heap but…
I have just seen a picture of the Queen and Camilla with the headline that Camilla is going to take on more duties to save the Queen. That makes it that a 74 year old is taking up more work than she is currently doing. Putting aside all prejudices against her I just thought the RF are hardly presenting a dynamic leadership for Britain.
When you look at the RF’s of Europe they present a much more current and contemporary face of monarchy, with their tradition of replacing the head of state at a sensible age.
I think it’s very sad that, if the Queen lives for another ten years, like her mother, then Charles will be 82 and another elderly king.
Do we need younger Kings and Queens to represent us so that the UK is not seen as a doddering old country, or does it make no difference to how we seem to other countries or to ourselves?

Josianne Sun 31-Oct-21 19:59:37

Surely those in the 'last chapter' have as much right to live it to the full as anyone else. This is an incredibly ageist thread.
You obviously misunderstood my post M0nica if you thought that I was in any way saying that women in the "final chapter" (reference to book) have less right to live life to the full. They can actually make the most of these years in a way that younger women find more difficult.
I was talking about how the RF is statistically speaking top heavy in terms of age because The Queen herself is undeniably very old.

Smileless2012 Sun 31-Oct-21 19:33:48

I agree MOnica she'll step down if she wants too or she'll carry on until her death.

After a lifetime of service she deserves the right to make that decision for herself.

Zoejory Sun 31-Oct-21 19:30:32

Surely those in the 'last chapter' have as much right to live it to the full as anyone else. This is an incredibly ageist thread.

Very true, MOnica.

M0nica Sun 31-Oct-21 19:21:06

Surely those in the 'last chapter' have as much right to live it to the full as anyone else. This is an incredibly ageist thread.

How old, how effective, how active you are depends entirely on yourself. We have neighbours the same age as us (late 70s), they were older, more ineffective, and inactive than we are now, when we moved here 25 years ago.

Kim19 Sun 31-Oct-21 19:14:55

I think the Queen is aware that her natural successor and his spouse will not necessarily go down well with the general public and is simply trying to defer the evil day.

dolphindaisy Sun 31-Oct-21 19:07:11

I don't think the Queen will ever abdicate but I've thought for years she could sit back and give Charles more responsibility, it could be that she is quite possessive of her position.
I've never understood people who want to by-pass Charles and hand the throne to William, the monarchy isn't like the
X-Factor where the public can vote for their favourite.

Calistemon Sun 31-Oct-21 17:49:34

Lucca

Or what Josianne suggested …. Judi dench style or maggie smith etc

Judi Dench doesn't change her style at all either - shopping with a friend in Bath many years ago we saw clothes in a rather expensive shop and she said 'they're Judi Dench clothes, ok if you're at least 5'7" and slim".

Neither HM nor Dame Judi are tall and slim. However, I do like the way JD dresses for best.

Quote: Judi Dench: 'In my mind's eye I'm six foot and willowy

winterwhite Sun 31-Oct-21 17:42:05

But a figurehead, which is what the queen mostly is, does not really have an opportunity to 'contribute' anything, wise or otherwise.
And when the queen could have 'contributed' last year by challenging the proroguing of parliament she did not do so. I lost respect for her in the role then.

Josianne Sun 31-Oct-21 17:18:06

I see what you mean about those at the top being aged Bluebellwould and the image that exudes. The TV doctor Rosemary Leonard has written a book about The Seven Stages of Woman, and both The Queen and Camilla are in the final 75+ chapter group!

Josianne Sun 31-Oct-21 17:10:40

Boz

Angela Kelly is the Queen's resident dressmaker. She has written a book called "The Other Side of the Coin" if anyone is interested. I got it for a £1 on a kindle daily deal. Don't pay a lot for this book - very lightweight and we learn nothing new about the Queen but nice to read if you like textiles and tailoring.

Thank you Boz. I do like anything to do with fabric and couture.

M0nica Sun 31-Oct-21 17:05:19

Message withdrawn as it quotes a deleted post.

GagaJo Sun 31-Oct-21 17:04:52

Yes, of course Calistemon. The most distressing of all obviously.

welbeck Sun 31-Oct-21 17:02:57

GagaJo,
that's very risky, making libellous statements, or reckless;
could be very expensive if taken to law on it.

welbeck Sun 31-Oct-21 17:00:34

i like her clothes, esp hats, since angela kelly has been designing them.

Lucca Sun 31-Oct-21 16:43:28

Or what Josianne suggested …. Judi dench style or maggie smith etc

Calistemon Sun 31-Oct-21 16:42:59

TOWIW

(The Only Way is Windsor)

Kamiso Sun 31-Oct-21 16:41:21

Calistemon

^I agree that the same old hat and coat image is very far from a contemporary image^
I think she'd look faintly ridiculous in the latest fashions, showing a bare midriff.
So would I

grin

It might jazz up her image if she had tattoo slugs instead of eyebrows and a few piercings! Ripped jeans that show her knickers when she leans forward to cut ribbons or a micro mini skirt!

Calistemon Sun 31-Oct-21 16:32:23

Message deleted by Gransnet. Quotes a deleted post.

Anniebach Sun 31-Oct-21 16:32:04

I didn’t know Andrew had been found guilty , can anyone be found guilty of allegations? No arrest, no court case yet found guilty

GagaJo Sun 31-Oct-21 16:06:49

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk guidelines.

BlueBelle Sun 31-Oct-21 16:06:16

I don’t know many young people interested in the Royal Family Bluebellwould are there ? certainly not in my experience

Barmeyoldbat Sun 31-Oct-21 16:00:00

I think it is her royal duties that keep her going.

Bluebellwould Sun 31-Oct-21 15:56:22

No I didn’t mean in a fashion sense as I think that they all dress wonderfully and appropriately. I meant image as in they are all aged. I’m obviously not including Catherine and William in this. With Harry and Andrew gone the balance of the RF is leaning towards the elderly members, there is a deficit of younger members. I was wondering if that would alienate the younger in society.

Lucca Sun 31-Oct-21 15:55:48

David Attrnburgh isn’t ruling the country is he ?

Wish he was running the country

BlueBelle Sun 31-Oct-21 15:52:22

Of course she should have retired long ago
I feel I can cope with all sorts of things but know in reality I shouldn’t I don’t care what they do in other countries or what they think of us she is holding onto control that should have been handed over long long ago That doesn’t make me anti royalty it’s just an obvious comment

David Attrnburgh isn’t ruling the country is he ?