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Our prime minister, the statesman, and Peppa Pig

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Riverwalk Mon 22-Nov-21 16:00:35

Nothing wrong with mixing up notes and losing your place - could happen to the most excellent of national leader, but this was totally cringeworthy!

It was reminiscent of his totally made-up claim when asked about his hobbies and he garbled something about making a bus from wine boxes. He is such a psued.

He was addressing the CBI.

Peppa Pig

railman Tue 23-Nov-21 13:02:35

GillT57

His "great orator" reputation is yet another phoney part of Johnson. What a bloody embarrassment he is

It was both cringeworthy in the extreme, and he was insulting his audience, who were light years ahead of him in the intelligence and critical thinking game.

I've heard some people say he's been working too much - too many photo ops, etc. - and others have said, well everybody makes mistakes, let's cut him some slack.

We need to remember that this man's inaction s led to the deaths of 10's of 1,000s of people, and Sunak's "Eat Out to Help Out" to help out scheme led to 1,000s more when we had no vaccine.

He is no orator - he's the jokey equivalent of Farage the mob agitator, or the barfly who has an answer for everything. His speeches are always rambling and incoherent - marked by frequent finger wagging, air-punching, or tub thumping gesticulation.

Just imagine if he made a mistake and lost his place and launched a nuclear first strike - along the lines that Priti Patel has suggested she would be prepared to do.

My God, we have to get this menace of the public scene - give him a job he has experience in - like making up stories for the Telegraph.

Lucca Tue 23-Nov-21 13:09:15

Nice one Railman

Michael12 Tue 23-Nov-21 13:15:49

I have seen is clothing dress approach , if he was a comedian not sure as to stand up but his style clothing , he has been classed as wearing cloths designed by the late " Benny Hill" especially with his hairstyle never tidy.
Mick
PS If was applying for a job, would he fail to get it after the interview

annsixty Tue 23-Nov-21 13:16:03

He obviously took lessons from Donald Trump.

Elvis58 Tue 23-Nov-21 13:16:18

The man is a buffoon! Trouble is he is likely to get in again.
I will never vote again as they are all inept.

Riverwalk Tue 23-Nov-21 13:18:25

lemongrove

I bet it was the result ( the fluffed speech) of wine with lunch, tiredness and the usual Boris way of winging a speech, which he does with varying levels of success.

The speech was at 10am!

Purplepixie Tue 23-Nov-21 13:19:07

He is just a giant clown with the oink oink shoes! What a fool and he is running the country. God help us!

annodomini Tue 23-Nov-21 13:21:18

"I bet it was the result ( the fluffed speech) of wine with lunch, tiredness and the usual Boris way of winging a speech, which he does with varying levels of success"

You've lost the bet lemongrove. The PM concluded his speech with the words:
Thank you very much for your kind attention this morning, thank you.
Goodness knows what he had for breakfast!

Sadgrandma Tue 23-Nov-21 13:26:07

I used to teach speech making and the very first thing I impressed on students was, if you use notes, number the pages and STAPLE them together. Surely Boris's speech writers could have done that for him!

lemongrove Tue 23-Nov-21 13:28:54

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Drinks on the train up there?

GillT57 Tue 23-Nov-21 13:36:02

On Newsnight, Finkelstein and Toynbee, who are polar opposites politically, were agreed on the mess Johnson made of his speech, the third contributor to the discussion ( name missed, used to write speeches for Cameron) said that the usual way is for the speech writers to prepare everything, the order, the timing etc., and give it to the speech giver in plastic sleeves in a folder, in order, thus avoiding yesterday's debacle. It seems that Johnson doesn't like to do this.

Hilarybee Tue 23-Nov-21 13:50:40

He sounded like he had a bad cold IMO. Remember he’s got young children who can easily pick up germs etc.
BTW I have never voted conservative

Grantanow Tue 23-Nov-21 13:51:40

Yes, he messed up (as he has done in other ways) but two questions spring to mind. If there were a leadership challenge would the grassroots Tories re-elect him even if Tory MPs didn't want him? Would the Tories win a general election without him as leader given the state of the opposition parties?

BlueBelle Tue 23-Nov-21 13:51:58

Good grief that was an embarrassment for him and on the world stage for UK
Some people have voted in a total idiot and we must be the laughing stock of the world
I will never understand why a sane ( well are we? ) nation could vote in such a incompetent fool and …..keep him in

westendgirl Tue 23-Nov-21 13:56:12

But he should not , in his position as prime Minister,be making mistakes like that, no matter what he's got.
The sooner people stop making excuses for him and wake up to the fact that the man is a complete charlatan the better. He is a laughing stock abroad. ~Does this do our country any good?

Pepine Tue 23-Nov-21 14:01:00

Great orator….
If you haven’t read Jeremy Vine’s account of Johnson oratory prowess, do have a look below.

www.facebook.com/1691455784407633/posts/since-he-is-probably-our-next-prime-minister-i-thought-id-share-this-boris-johns/2449074521979085/

Joesoap Tue 23-Nov-21 14:06:14

So embarrasing for a PM to act like that, whats happening,time after time, just when we think things cant get worse.
His clothes, his hair,are embarrasing enough this man is leading our country.At least wear a face mask Boris.

lemongrove Tue 23-Nov-21 14:11:05

Grantanow

Yes, he messed up (as he has done in other ways) but two questions spring to mind. If there were a leadership challenge would the grassroots Tories re-elect him even if Tory MPs didn't want him? Would the Tories win a general election without him as leader given the state of the opposition parties?

An interesting point.
I think Conservative members may still vote to keep him.....but only if he keeps a lid on any more political stumbles.MP’s may be less kind.
It all depends on how we do as a country in the next year and how he copes with it.

Applegran Tue 23-Nov-21 14:18:51

I wonder if he really cannot cope with actually being the PM - he wanted it for power and glory but not the hard work and the difficult challenges. As mayor of London apparently he delegated most of the hard work. Recently he has ducked out of being where he should be - for instance being on the front bench when there were questions about standards and his attempt to change the rules for one of his friends. He was "on a long standing visit" to a hospital. He has also put others in front of the cameras when as PM he should have been there. So I am wondering if he is having a kind of break down - the job is more of a burden than he expected and nothing in his earlier life has prepared him for the focus, discipline and stamina the job requires. We don't need him at number 10 - we would be far better off if and when he departs. That leaves the key question about who replaces him......

Daisend1 Tue 23-Nov-21 14:21:58

Forgive me but who is ?/what is ? if having spelled correctly, peppa pig ?.

Gabrielle56 Tue 23-Nov-21 14:36:24

As far as most of us north of Watford, it never worked! Qualifications needed to raise a laugh? Humour! What an utter fool.

Gabrielle56 Tue 23-Nov-21 14:38:53

Applegran

I wonder if he really cannot cope with actually being the PM - he wanted it for power and glory but not the hard work and the difficult challenges. As mayor of London apparently he delegated most of the hard work. Recently he has ducked out of being where he should be - for instance being on the front bench when there were questions about standards and his attempt to change the rules for one of his friends. He was "on a long standing visit" to a hospital. He has also put others in front of the cameras when as PM he should have been there. So I am wondering if he is having a kind of break down - the job is more of a burden than he expected and nothing in his earlier life has prepared him for the focus, discipline and stamina the job requires. We don't need him at number 10 - we would be far better off if and when he departs. That leaves the key question about who replaces him......

Tbh I'm hoping he stays the course because then we may be able to get this bunch of thieves and liars out once and for all!! Anyone half compus mentis may get voted in again!!!? Perish the thought.....

Gabrielle56 Tue 23-Nov-21 14:46:19

USA had trump - we have Doris. At least USA have eradicated their rot! He's lazy, a liar, bighead of epic proportions, and has caused more damage to UK than we could ever have imagined. The sooner he's kicked down the drain where he belongs the better. What IS the conservative obsession with saving dosh anyway? What use savings if we're living in dire straits? Typical wealthy miser syndrome. Scrooge at its worst, denying the people the fruits of their labour, we all work like idiots to reap a meagre pension(whenever that materialises?) And they bang on about how little of our taxes they're spending on the services we actually need!!! What IS the 'rainy day' they're saving for? We live but once, why do they make life so very miserable for so many, cruel isn't in it!

Gabrielle56 Tue 23-Nov-21 14:49:20

The strategic vote is essential to stop them getting in again , abstention allows the bad to triumph, we all must vote to Stop Them getting in again, have we all forgotten THAT WOMAN. And the utter despair and destruction she put the country in? Seems so

grandtanteJE65 Tue 23-Nov-21 14:53:42

As a retired teacher, I rather suspect that Boris Johnson was the all too well known pupil: the one who spent his time staring out of the window instead of attending to what his school teachers were trying to teach him.

However hard you work, there are some pupils you cannot reach.