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How can parents do this?

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Elless Wed 24-Nov-21 12:45:27

Reading the paper this morning, I can't get the image of that little boy out of my head, I cried when I read it - I hope his parents suffer.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10235117/CCTV-shows-tragic-Arthur-desperately-try-pick-duvet-floor-forced-sleep.html

VioletSky Thu 25-Nov-21 18:18:47

I am sick of parents getting away with abusing children. Even when I say as an adult that my mother was abusive I get "oh but you only have 1 mum" or "she will be gone one day and you will regret this".

Like why is there such a disconnect between society and parents?

Why is there such a disconnect between society and mothers/mother figures?

It puts children and adult children at risk.

Parents can be emotionally, physically and sexually abusive and they can be neglectful or addicted and absent.

Children deserve better and victims deserve to be heard.

Kate1949 Thu 25-Nov-21 18:56:14

Exactly VioletSky and thank you BlueSky. I'm not putting myself in the same category as this poor child. However I know what it's like to be badly beaten by my 'father' as a young child and having to stay off school until my cuts and bruises healed. I won't depress you with the rest. I cannot forgive. There's no excuse.

Iam64 Thu 25-Nov-21 19:00:37

Kate1949. You’re right. There is
No excuse

Sallywally1 Thu 25-Nov-21 19:14:22

Horrible, horrible, horrible. I want to bring that little boy home and shower him with love.

What is wrong with people to so treat an innocent child this way. What is wrong with the teachers to ignore his obvious neglect. What is wrong with the visiting social workers who saw nothing amiss.

I too cannot watch the video.

As an aside, I read that the trial was stopped for a day as the step ‘mother’ needed hospital treatment…….

I am not a vindictive person, but.

Calistemon Thu 25-Nov-21 19:53:19

Kate1949

Exactly VioletSky and thank you BlueSky. I'm not putting myself in the same category as this poor child. However I know what it's like to be badly beaten by my 'father' as a young child and having to stay off school until my cuts and bruises healed. I won't depress you with the rest. I cannot forgive. There's no excuse.

And to others who didn't have loving parents ? I'm sorry.
There is no excuse.

Kate1949 Thu 25-Nov-21 20:22:05

Thank you Calistemon . I'm not looking for sympathy but I appreciate your kind words. No, no love in our house.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 25-Nov-21 22:22:57

I know Kate. I’ve never forgotten. ?

Retyred Thu 25-Nov-21 22:26:29

I heard this on the radio last night. I was upset.

V3ra Fri 26-Nov-21 00:12:48

Kate I always want to give the child you were a big hug. I'm so sad for all you went through ?

Elrel Fri 26-Nov-21 01:19:12

Maria Colwell, Baby Peter, Daniel Pelka, now poor Arthur.
Cruelty, sustained cruelty, beyond what many of us can bear to hear about or see. I couldn’t watch the video, a still I saw from it was enough.
The stepmother didn’t want Arthur to go to the grandmother and uncles who loved him because ‘he would have won’. Sick and twisted woman.

Smileless2012 Fri 26-Nov-21 09:31:59

What must those who loved him be thinking and feeling. His GM whose concerns were ignored, if she'd been listened too this could have been avoided.

Kate1949 Fri 26-Nov-21 09:46:29

Thank you Vera A hug would have been welcome smile I never had one as a child.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 26-Nov-21 09:51:12

Oh Kate, I could weep for you. I hope you have lots nowadays and I know you give them. You know how important they are. I’m digressing but is your brother making a good recovery and is your nephew ok?

Kate1949 Fri 26-Nov-21 10:01:00

Oh how thoughtful GSM. My brother is doing very well indeed. He must be made of strong stuff! My nephew has been swept up by the family and is doing OK. How lovely people on here are. With apologies for highjacking such an important thread.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 26-Nov-21 11:06:42

I'm so pleased. I remember you all in my prayers.

Kate1949 Fri 26-Nov-21 11:14:20

That's lovely of you. I feel such a whinger thinking about this little boy. At least I survived.

Smileless2012 Fri 26-Nov-21 11:40:09

"I never had one as a child" here's a BIG (((hug))) for you Kate flowers.

nightowl Fri 26-Nov-21 12:17:31

Kate you are definitely not a whinger. You’re a survivor. Emotional scars may be invisible but they are always there. I hope life has been kinder to you as an adult.

Kate1949 Fri 26-Nov-21 12:52:17

Thanks everyone. I don't know what ai would do without GN..I won't post on this thread again as I seem to have made it all about me.

oodles Fri 26-Nov-21 12:52:50

Don't blame the hairdresser to much, even had she reported it it might not have been actioned
Baby Star who is mentioned above had concerns reported to social services 5 times by 5 different people. Great grandma was told she'd be introuble with the police if she did it again , it was treated as malicious reporting
That's 5 times by 5 different people., both family members and strangers
Some bells ought to have rung, heck Big Ben ought to have rung. Yes people do report maliciously sometimes but strangers don't

tickingbird Fri 26-Nov-21 13:06:00

I’ve worked with Social Services and they do work more with the parents’ needs than the children’s. When there are different reports coming in from different people there should be immediate concerns. Also as someone up thread stated the belief that different people have different standards is the norm. A friend’s daughter took a social work degree and I remember her telling us how they’re taught not to be judgemental about certain classes of society. Nonsense. Abuse is abuse and it’s nothing to do with being judgemental. Until SS do as they promise and do learn their lessons these horror stories and child suffering will continue.

They can’t save them all and it’s a difficult job but there isn’t an excuse when they’re involved and it continues under their noses.

Nana56 Fri 26-Nov-21 14:26:41

Absolutely heartbreaking. Hope they're locked up for life.

Iam64 Sat 27-Nov-21 09:01:04

tickingbird

I’ve worked with Social Services and they do work more with the parents’ needs than the children’s. When there are different reports coming in from different people there should be immediate concerns. Also as someone up thread stated the belief that different people have different standards is the norm. A friend’s daughter took a social work degree and I remember her telling us how they’re taught not to be judgemental about certain classes of society. Nonsense. Abuse is abuse and it’s nothing to do with being judgemental. Until SS do as they promise and do learn their lessons these horror stories and child suffering will continue.

They can’t save them all and it’s a difficult job but there isn’t an excuse when they’re involved and it continues under their noses.

The Children Act is the legal framework. ‘ The needs of the child are paramount’.

Yes, a non judgemental approach is needed in various professions, doctors, nurses, mental health, drug centre and social work to name a few. Being non judgemental doesn’t mean ignoring or excusing abuse.

JaneJudge Sat 27-Nov-21 12:11:30

Social services have been involved with my family because of disability and I've worked with SS as part of supporting families within a previous work role and I haven't felt they've sided with the parents at all. I do agree that in certain areas the thresholds are set far too high though.

OnwardandUpward Sat 27-Nov-21 22:44:07

Social services do what they can, but they are reliant on people being honest because they can only know what they know. Very often they sign people over because they think they are managing fine and there are more seemingly urgent cases