How can parents do this?

Maybe they need to stop relying on people being honest in such cases. Can you imagine if the police relied on people being honest? It’s a nonsense.

Social workers were against Baby Peter’s mother having the baby she gave birth to in prison being taken away as it would be an abuse of HER human rights!

Feel free to read the court transcripts of his injuries before his (merciful imo) death. How anyone could be in anyway mindful of her so called rights is beyond me.

Your reports are inflammatory, inaccurate and don’t develop debate on how children are better safeguarded. Police are involved in child protection conferences - well that’s less likely given the cuts but let’s not let reality get in the way of just blaming social workers for everything that goes wtong

It's something to bear in mind when giving the advice to "keep your beak out" of parents' business, as I've seen it so charmingly written here, when grandparents are worried about issues with their grandchildren.

Indeed Miss Adventure. One of the things that brought me to tears about this case, was his parents filming him weeping, wanting his gran. The photograph she is said to have shown to police and social workers, of bruising to his shoulder,along with other concerns appear to have been dismissed. Abusive parents often accuse grandparents/aunts/separated parents of making malicious allegations. No doubt a public enquiry will establish the facts here. His grandmother must be heart broken in grief.
The paramedics, doctors, police, social workers, everyone involved in this will carry the pain, grief, anger and responsibility for ever

How desperately sad.
That poor, poor little soul.
I can't bear to read about his lonely little life.
Baby P, and the suffering he went through affected me for years, having got probably far too invested in the story.

I would bring back the death sentence for these useless wastes of space. (Unpopular opinion, I know)

Your reports are inflammatory, inaccurate and don’t develop debate on how children are better safeguarded

Whose reports?

Iam64

Indeed Miss Adventure. One of the things that brought me to tears about this case, was his parents filming him weeping, wanting his gran. The photograph she is said to have shown to police and social workers, of bruising to his shoulder,along with other concerns appear to have been dismissed. Abusive parents often accuse grandparents/aunts/separated parents of making malicious allegations. No doubt a public enquiry will establish the facts here. His grandmother must be heart broken in grief.
The paramedics, doctors, police, social workers, everyone involved in this will carry the pain, grief, anger and responsibility for ever

What changed his father from a seemingly loving Dad into this cruel, vile person who enjoyed inflicting pain on his little boy? Photos show little Arthur and his father enjoying happy moments together; presumably this was before he met the step-mother.
Was he so easily manipulated by her or did he always cover up that side of him?

Some abusers actively enjoy being able to hold such power.
Hot/cold
Nice/spiteful.

Where were the photos? Social media?

I only saw the ones published in the online papers.

Yes, I do know.
I'm glad to be retired.

The photograph I saw was in the DM on line.
Tickingbird, apologies, I should have made clear I was referring to your posts about social workers.

I’m sorry Iam64 but what I said about the social workers and Baby Peter’s mother giving birth in prison is factual. Not inflammatory and inaccurate. All true. It was also discussed/debated in parliament. The social workers were overruled by the police.

Just to clarify Iam64, I don’t blame SW’s for these dreadful cases - they aren’t the ones inflicting the injuries after all but they do fall woefully short at times. The hackneyed phrase ‘lessons will be learned’ get trotted out but nothing does appear to be learned unfortunately.

Being a social worker must be an incredibly stressful and difficult job. I have no doubt much too high case loads too.

I feel terrible for everyone involved in this case, they got it all wrong but they can only do their best with the time and information they have

I'm afraid they don't always do their best, though.
Baby P was failed by multiple agencies, that was the official finding.

More agonisingly awful evidence from the trial today, that poor wee Arthur knew his father was going to try to kill him one day.

I’ve never supported capital punishment but by god, this case is testing my resolve.

The sentences for abusing and even killing children are just not tough enough.

Proposals for tougher sentences, called Tony's Law, met with the approval of Dominic Raab, Justice Secretary, after campaigning by the adoptive parents of Tony Hudgell and MP Tom Tugendhat.
Tony was dreadfully abused as a tiny baby by his birth parents, left in agony and had to have both legs amputated as a result.
He now has wonderful adoptive parents.
Tony raised over £1million last year for the hospital which treated him by walking, after being inspired by Captain Tom.

The callous, evil birth parents were each sentenced to ten years and will be out of prison next year after serving five years.
I hope they have both been sterilised but I doubt it.

My daughter worked in child protection many years ago when she was very young. To get a child in danger taken out of a family was incredibly difficult, particularly if that child was of Aboriginal descent because of past history and the stolen generation. There were many families where this would have been the best for the child but it just didn’t happen because of bureaucracy and politics. Horrible situation.

SueDonim

More agonisingly awful evidence from the trial today, that poor wee Arthur knew his father was going to try to kill him one day.

I’ve never supported capital punishment but by god, this case is testing my resolve.

Poor, poor little lad.

Yes, mine too, as are the other cases, and the thought that some of these evil people will be out in a few years and able to have more children is just horrifying.

I hope they have both been sterilised but I doubt it.

There’s no chance of that Callistemon. That would be an outrageous abuse of their human rights!!

Just in case of any doubt I am being very sarcastic.

In addition I, too, am very familiar with young Tony’s case - bless him. Every time I see this boy I see his monster of a father as he looks just like him. They will soon be released but that boy lives the rest of his life without legs because of what they did to him when he was a tiny baby.

I know we shouldn’t get over emotional about these things but we are far too tolerant and a basic human right is liberty and we take that away easily enough so I really cannot understand why forced sterilisation is so dreadful.

I know we shouldn’t get over emotional about these things but we are far too tolerant and a basic human right is liberty and we take that away easily enough so I really cannot understand why forced sterilisation is so dreadful.

They have surely forfeited the right to have children.
When they are released I hope a very close eye is kept on the pair of them.

I couldn’t countenance forced sterilisation, there are far too many associations with the third reich. I realise some would argue it compares with removing at birth, any future children these people may have.

There are terrible things being done to people in our prisons and mental health facilities. Forced sterilisation is the least of it. If proved beyond doubt that someone has abused/neglected a child to the point of death or serious injury then forced sterilisation is an option and should be considered.

No it shouldn't. Its abhorrent.

A terrible crime but sterilisation would be a medieval punishment.