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Harry’s ‘pop’ at Charles

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Bluebellwould Mon 06-Dec-21 11:46:10

Harry has apparently had another pop at his dad this time regarding the payment for honours debacle. Harry seems to keep on attacking Charles and I wondered if there might be a particular reason for this. In all of the multitudinous reports on their estrangement I haven’t seen anyone wondering if H is doing this because he believes/knows Charles is not his dad. I am not suggesting that is true but it may be his ‘truth’ as others have put it. Perhaps it would go some way to explain his seeming lack of belonging. Just musing on a grey day, please feel free to wade in or not as the case maybe.

Josianne Tue 07-Dec-21 18:45:30

Bossyrossy

I’m sure the royal family would have done a DNA test on Harry by now.

Of course Bossyrossy or why would Harry have done that very public blood test for all the world to see with Rhianna, AIDS I think? Charles is his father.

Forsythia Tue 07-Dec-21 18:47:06

Germanshepherdsmum

Because he’s the spare Forsythia.

Yes exactly. But he has known that all of his life. Either they’ve covered up for him for many years, which I suspect is true, or something or someone is triggering all this. What could it be….

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 07-Dec-21 19:38:33

Why don’t you give us your conspiracy theories then?

trisher Wed 08-Dec-21 10:11:02

To go back to the original post I wonder how many of you would condemn a son who left the family and when it subsequently was revealed that his dad had been involved in a little illegal activity (say embezzlement) spoke out about it? Wouldn't most of you think he was doing the right thing? So why is Harry wrong? Is it a class thing? Is it a Royal thing? Is it in fact one law for them and one for the rest of us?

Anniebach Wed 08-Dec-21 10:19:42

Harry introduced the man to his father after receiving £50,000
his own charity !

maddyone Wed 08-Dec-21 10:25:21

Harry didn’t leave his family because of a little illegal activity though did he? And no, if someone in my family was doing something illegal I’d speak to that person, and depending on what the activity was, I’d hope try to support that person to do the right thing, whatever that might be (depends on the crime, I think.) What I wouldn’t do is go to the National news and broadcast my family difficulties to the world. I may however involve the police, as I said, it would depend on what had been done.

Anniebach Wed 08-Dec-21 10:39:07

Was the £50,000 accepted on a promise to open a door ?

Sparklefizz Wed 08-Dec-21 10:42:18

Anniebach

Harry introduced the man to his father after receiving £50,000
his own charity !

Apparently Harry accepted £50,000 from that donor for his charity Sentebale. Maybe he should give it back.

Anniebach Wed 08-Dec-21 10:46:29

It would be the honourable thing to do, but Harry ‘doesn’t do’
honourable

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 08-Dec-21 10:53:28

Not any more Annie. He did when he was in the forces, was well thought of by the other men, then when he met Meghan it just slipped off the agenda.

Josianne Wed 08-Dec-21 10:56:52

I'm sure this is all going to be spelt out in Harry's dreaded autobiography. In fact I think the whole book might be a catalogue of revelations (from Harry's viewpoint) designed to make Charles look unfit to be King.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 08-Dec-21 11:17:59

I wouldn’t be at all surprised. The final nail in the coffin of their relationship.

trisher Wed 08-Dec-21 11:26:13

Actually even the Daily Mail says Harry didn't introduce the Saudi millionaire to Charles and that Sentebale and Harry severed ties with him after the first donation when they realised the motive was questionable. Which makes you think that Harry and his advisers must be brighter than Charles and his advisers or else Charles and his lot knew what was going on but decided it was worth doing a deal. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10277431/Prince-Harry-says-severed-ties-Saudi-billionaire-centre-cash-honours-scandal.html
Perhaps those castigating Harry and Sentebale which does great work in Africa should read the facts before they suggest returning money badly needed and taken in good faith

Anniebach Wed 08-Dec-21 11:42:51

Harry has denied he introduced the millionaire, Harry always
speaks the truth doesn’t he, but in fairness perhaps like his
wife he has forgotten

Sparklefizz Wed 08-Dec-21 11:54:10

Which makes you think that Harry and his advisers must be brighter than Charles and his advisers or else Charles and his lot knew what was going on but decided it was worth doing a deal.

.... or, of course, that Harry didn't know either, and has just taken the opportunity to jump on the bandwagon and kick his father!

jaylucy Wed 08-Dec-21 12:05:49

What always amuses me with the "Charles can't be his father" idea is because it mainly stems on the colour of his hair , when people either forget or ignore the fact that the Spencer family are quite renowned for their red hair and down to genetics it is quite likely that at least one of Diana's children would have been a red head - take it from one whose family has red hair threaded throughout the family!
I think it more likely that these apparent digs are more to do with Charles' relationship with his current wife!
Harry has always been the one that has sided with his mother and so may still have some unrecognised or admitted angst against his father I think. But that is just my opinion.

Anniebach Wed 08-Dec-21 12:15:59

If Harry had such angst why did he have his father escort his bride to be to the alter ?

Sparklefizz Wed 08-Dec-21 12:16:40

Good point, Annie

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 08-Dec-21 12:33:30

Yes it is. Which imo points to someone working on him after the marriage to change his mind and loyalties.

Anniebach Wed 08-Dec-21 12:40:57

William has always spoken with love about his mother , he hasn’t used her as Harry has.

His fears for Megan’s safety because his mother was killed when with Dodi Fayed. Why wasn’t she killed during her two
year relationship with Hasnet Khan .

maddyone Wed 08-Dec-21 12:58:32

Diana was killed in a car crash. She wasn’t wearing a seatbelt. The driver was both drunk and apparently speeding. Why would Megan be killed?
The best way for anyone, including Megan, to avoid dying in a car crash, is to wear a seatbelt.

Josianne Wed 08-Dec-21 13:16:40

Harry has always been paranoid about Meghan's safety. Apparently he wanted to pay (from tax payers' money?) for her to have a private bodyguard when they had not long been together. At the Invictus Games in Toronto when she sat in the stands, Harry ensured there was a bodyguard directly behind her. I can sort of understand that because Meghan had always been keen to put herself out there on social media and she was a known face.

trisher Wed 08-Dec-21 14:18:00

Anniebach

Harry has denied he introduced the millionaire, Harry always
speaks the truth doesn’t he, but in fairness perhaps like his
wife he has forgotten

Let's get this right Harry and Sentebale accepted one donation from this man,they met once and then say they cut ties with him. Charles accepted millions, met the man on numerous occasions, awarded him a CBE, his aide has resigned and the matter is being investigated by both the Met police and the Charity Commission but it's Harry being criticised on here. But of course no one hates him do they?

Bridgeit Wed 08-Dec-21 14:35:01

When in doubt, it’s easy to find out.
So if there has been doubt, I’m sure that the truth was ascertained along, long time ago. ?

Anniebach Wed 08-Dec-21 15:01:22

Yes accepted one donation , met him in a pub then met him in
Clarence House , his father’s home