Prince Andrew Can't Sweat

It's bad enough all those being paid £90 pounds an hour just to shout at the poor sod being paid £10 an hour to work his butt off just to keep himself in food and shelter. Even though without his hard work you'd have nothing because the world is so backwards....

But selling someone elses body? And earning £90 to their £10?

Thats disgusting

Money, money, money. Must be funny, in a rich man's world.
When someone has made so much of it from procuring girls for randy plutocrats that they can pay out half a million to just one person who they have exploited, it must distort their mindset.

And when someone is so rich that they can pay vast sums to the pimp for those girls, it must distort their values too. Both procurer and client come to believe that money can buy anything, and that everyone has a price.

Can anyone work out Epstein’s mindset

What do you mean, Anniebach?

Can anyone do so ?

But think of the mindset of a man prepared to pay girls tha5 sort of money - guilt money - they know they’ve exploited, and they want to avoid any legal consequence.

Wonder if all the girls involved were given this sum in settlement

Jeffrey Epstein Paid Virginia Giuffre $500000 in 2009 Settlement........
she's lived in australia for 11 years so time for a top up, a huge one this time

Kathy73

I applaud you, VioletSky for continuing to post on this thread, and others, after what sounds like a very damaged childhood - and for being able to accommodate the very entrenched opinions of others. Good luck to you.

I don't know what I've done to deserve that but thank you, it really does mean a lot

I applaud you, VioletSky for continuing to post on this thread, and others, after what sounds like a very damaged childhood - and for being able to accommodate the very entrenched opinions of others. Good luck to you.

Elegran and Iam yes it is

Although I've never been able to fix my automatic need to apologise when something goes wrong. My husband says "this bacon has gone out of date" in an annoyed tone as he hates waste and I will still feel immediately guilty and say "sorry" even though I'm not personally responsible for eating all the bacon.

I will keep working on it

This is Transactional Analysis as Elegran says. A well established and used therapy. Good to hear it’s been helpful to you Violet.

That sounds rather like what fifty years ago was called "Transactional analysis"

Violet Sky our posts crossed. Thanks for the links.

Thanks Violet Sky If you can find that link I'd be very interested to read it. Maybe your therapist could name the sort of therapy it is?

PAC model

www.philgowler.co.uk/therapies/the-parent-adult-child-model-simple-yet-it-works/

Visualisation

www.harleytherapy.co.uk/counselling/guided-visualisation-therapy-can-make-feel-better.htm

Caleo it's a lot to explain, you could start with looking at the "parent adult child model" which explains our levels of thinking.

We all have an inner parent, an inner adult and an inner child which shapes our thoughts and reactions. If our parent was critical our inner parent will be critical. If our childhood was painful our inner child will react with pain.

Gosh I don't think I can explain very well really but it is all about learning to think and react to situations with our inner adult instead of our inner child or inner parent.

It really is very interesting, I will find a good link and attach it.

The technique is a visualisation technique, you go to a place which feels safe and comfortable (this is the bath for me) and you visualise yourself sitting opposite child you. You explain to child you that the abuse they received was not their fault, that they were not in control, they were not to blame and should feel no guilt. You can comfort your childhood self.

I really didn't expect it to work as well or be as freeing as it was but it was amazing for me.

I'll try to see of there is any info about that that can explain better than me too

Violet Sky wrote:

"I know some might find me a bit weird for being open about my experiences but I've had a lot of counselling and used techniques to seperate adult me from child me, which makes me quite protective of child me and able to stand up for her."

That is an impressively credible sort of therapy. Please tell me, is there a name for that sort of therapy?

Prostitution is indeed relevant to a discussion of ethics.

The least a user of a sex worker can do is pay her adequately. Selling sex is dangerous work in several ways, and sex workers of all levels should be amply paid.

She can make much more why settle for £5 million.

Windsor offered £5 million to Giuffre to settle out of court.

Turned down.

VioletSky. Thank you.

Several reasons I don’t believe Giuffrie.

Reading a book on massage whilst sitting in a hotel where she
worked and where Maxwell stayed.

Her interviews, how frightened she was of Andrew , she felt sick, he raped her yet she kept that photograph ,

The woman who gave evidence at Maxwell’s trial, was she lying? What reason did she have to lie ?

Giuffrie choosing to sue a British man yet names of many famous Americans have be given, suing an American would have caused less legal battles. But as it has been said so many times, suing Andrew gives world coverage.

The Independent is reporting that Maxwell is no longer fighting to keep names secret from Giuffre.

I know some might find me a bit weird for being open about my experiences but I've had a lot of counselling and used techniques to seperate adult me from child me, which makes me quite protective of child me and able to stand up for her.

Anniebach honestly it is fine to not believe one woman, its the reasons not to believe that I am struggling with but thank you for saying that