Not necessarily reliable sources then? ?
What did you never own up to ?
this week’s unaccountable ear worm
Labour Brings in excellent Renter's Rights - long overdue.
According to the papers today, people who do a weekly food-shop are in the highest category to catch covid. Me myself, I do a food shop weekly, I sanitise my hands before going in, still wipe my trolley down, face mask and no longer than 30-45 in a shop. And most of the time I still wipe my food packages down when I get home. I would consider it much safer than working in hospitality or sitting in a bar for 2 hrs or so. Or sitting on a packed train, etc. What’s other people’s thoughts on this.
Not necessarily reliable sources then? ?
Should have added;
This does not mean that people did not get COVID, even though they were travelling on the tube, only that those who got COVID did not travel on the tube more frequently than those that didn't.
People really need to read and understand exactly what the researchers did and exactly what their results are actually saying. It is rare for a media report to do so. They are ofen written from press releases released by the relevant university press office and I know from DS, who is a university academic, that the reearchers often get no sight and have no opportunity to change press releases that talk arrant nonsense.
maddyone
I said above: Remember, they ( the researchers) are not investigating where or how someone picked up COVID. Merely listing the activities they were more likely to have taken part in if they caught it, compared with those that didn't
There can always be anomalies
The 900 people who contracted Covid most likely took part in several of the activities mentioned, so it’s impossible to know that shopping is more likely to result in infection than travelling by bus if both cause an increase in Covid infections.
I find it curious that no increase in infection was found by travelling by tube. People all packed in together and many not wearing a mask. Their research seems seriously flawed to come up with that.
It’s another of those interesting surveys. It’s a puzzle for those among us who have shopped and worked all the way through.
Jerseygal
Not True....
What's not true???????
Not True....
The survey is reported in the Daily Telegraph as well and is a study made by UCL(University College, London).
Researchers surveyed 10,000 people to find out what they were doing on a weekly basis from September to November. During that time 900 of them were diagnosed with COVID.
They found that travelling by bus increased your chance of getting Covid by 30%, travelling by taxi +19%, by train +18%, tube +/-0.
There was no evidence of extra risk from going to the theatre, cinema, concert or sports event, nor from visiting hairdresser or other beauty care facility.
However, going to arestaurant or cafe increased your risk by 29%, visiting a pub or similar facility more than twice a week +28%, going to a party 27%, the same increased risk as going to the gym.
They no where mention supermarket visits, just say that 'shopping' doubles the risk of getting the disease.
Now shopping covers a wide variety of transactions and includes visiting supermarkets, but also visiting every other kind of retail outlet, from £ shops to Vintage clothes shops. What proportion of shopping events are supermarket visits, I am not sure.
I do a weekly supermarket trip. I also go to an outdoor market and this week went to Superdrug, Holland & Barrett and a sewing shop. The supermarket shop was only one of 5 shopping units I visited.
Remember, they are not investigating where or how someone picked up COVID. Merely listing the activities they were more likely to have taken part in if they caught it, compared with those that didn't
I haven’t actually been in a large supermarket since the beginning of the pandemic. Apart from 2 trips to Aldi for Christmas Faye and I have never caught Covid so it must be true lol
The truth is, very few people can be absolutely certain where they caught it from. Even if you catch it from someone else in your household, assuming there’s more than just 2 of you, there’s chance that another member of the family had it without symptoms. This makes finding the origin of each infection hard, it’s very much a guessing game.
When Test & Trace contact you, they’ll ask about your recent activity/contacts etc. The majority of adults will have been in a shop that week. It doesn’t mean that that’s where they caught it, but I’m assuming the system ‘ticks’ it as a potential exposure point. Shopping is always going to feature highly on the list of ‘what did you do in the days before you tested positive’, because it’s one of the few things we all have in common.
rosie1959
highlanddreams you can get delivery from Sainsbury’s for £1 if you are flexible about the timing. Our chemist will deliver your prescription
Thanks but only Tesco deliver here as we're about 70 miles from the city. Our wee chemist used to deliver at the beginning the posties used to bring them, it was great but I think RM stopped them. They have some volunteer that still do it for vulnerable groups, which is good of them. I'm sure I'll be ok just scooting in and out of there at opening time once a month while masking up and sanitising my hands.
Do the Mail give a source for their information?
I do one supermarket shop a week, but buy vegetables in the local market (outside) and meat and bread from local farm shops.
I wear a mask in the shop. I used to wear gloves, but have stopped doing that. I take the food straight into the house and unpack it and put it away.
I've had a peek at next week's headlines
Apparently people who shop in the supermarket may spend more than those who shop online.
rosie1959
Grantanow
Perhaps buy a better newspaper like The Guardian and supplement that with Channel 4 News?
Very rarely buy a newspaper as they can be read on line so you can get an overall view. You wouldn’t get that by just reading the Guardian
Actually you do because the Guardian has people with a wide range of political views writing for it.
It might be partly dependent on where you shop. We shop regularly in quiet supermarkets and have done all through this pandemic, avoiding crowded times.
However, we once went to a huge Tesco superstore (post-lockdown) and it was like a rugby scrum. There were masses of people wandering around, mainly unmasked, no distancing whatsoever. Possibly the result of people desperate to get out post lockdown, and would also have been before Christmas. We left very quickly and went back to our nice quiet little Sainsbury.
Grantanow
Perhaps buy a better newspaper like The Guardian and supplement that with Channel 4 News?
It’s very amusing when people recommend reading the Guardianista claiming it to be honest and factual. It just panders to the left wing prejudices and is every bit as biased as the Mail. Their readership are blinded to the facts.
Are people who shop weekly more likely to be in full time employment and therefore more likely to be traveling to work and mixing?
I'm not in the least concerned over my weekly shop. I visit at off peak times, do all the sanitising/mask wearing and don't handle goods unless I intend to buy them. I use self serve tills so no one else handles my shopping. If I catch covid after all that, well, it was meant to be.
If I believed that statistic to be even remotely accurate I could be very pleased as I shop on a daily basis and always have done. Part of my exercise regime.
I think this ‘news’ is for the same reason that every time I visit Sainsbury’s nowadays, I get a ‘15% or 20% off your first online order’ voucher.
If people have cut down on on-line shopping, that’s fewer jobs for pickers or drivers. Let’s try and boost the online shoppers again.
I couldn’t get a delivery during lock down so have shopped since the start.
I've been continuing my weekly shop throughout the pandemic and thus far have remained well - fingers crossed. I sanitise the trolley, wash hands, wear a mask, etc and can only hope for the best.
If I didn't go shopping I'd barely leave the house at all and I can't believe that that would be good for my mental health either.
It’s from statistics for September and October I believe which showed that people who went shopping in person were more likely to have caught Covid as a result than those shopping on line. Seems like stating the bl**** obvious as Basil Fawlty put it. It also said you were more likely to catch it if you went to watch or participate in sports. Again no surprise.
Since the start I have been shopping every week (still do). Major shop once a month, essentials rest of the time. DH and I continue to wear masks when we are out of the house, sanitise or wash our hands at every opportunity and keep our distance but we still managed to both get COVID in November. Maybe I didn’t go shopping often enough!
I've been shopping since the start of lockdown as I couldn't get deliveries. Also went on buses. I always masked and sanitised. My upholstery group restarted last term, and we are back again now. We are both triple jabbed, My DH starts his class at Citylit next Wednesday, he goes on the train to Waterloo.
Most people shop one a week! Therefore most people with covid will have done so also ?
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