Apparently people who do a weekly shop are the likeliest to get covid

Alioop You are getting into a state quite unnecessarily.

The report comes from a reputable university and if people read it carefully they would find that it does not say ^ people who do a weekly food-shop are in the highest risk category to catch COVID^

Nowhere does the study say anything about where people picked up the virus.

All it says is that among their sample, those who got COVID were more likely to have gone shopping in the previous week than those who didn't. It does not say that they picked up COVID in a supermarket. Apart from the fact that shopping covers a wide range of activities, in a wide range of environments. I went shopping in 5 different shops/markets last week. Only one was a supermarket. Many in the sample who didn't get COVID, probably shopped online.

Those in the sample who got COVID were generally leading much more active lives, going to the pub, restaurants, the theatre, travelling on public transport etc than those who didn't get it, which is obvious if you think about it.

But I will emphasis again. This study did NOT say that people who shopped at supermarkets were at a greater risk of picking up COVID there.

What about the shop workers of which I was one until recently? Wouldn’t they be more susceptible than a once a week shopper?

Grace read the post above yours. The survey did not say those who used shops were more susceptible to catching COVID, nor did it say that people picked the disease there.

It merely said that those who caught COVID were more likely to have been out and about more than those who didn't catch it.

I shop weekly in a supermarket and, in between, in my local corner shop. I wear a mask because it's either compulsory, as currently, or requested and I'm triple jabbed. I take part in group sports activities several times a week (karate). I have never yet had covid, unless totally asymptomatically and therefore unknowingly.

Whoever said it, (Mark Twain or Benjamin Disraeli) "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.", it's definitely still true. The ones that annoy me the most are those worst case scenario forecasts that use the vague terms could, may and might, and those that quote deaths with but not specifically from Covid (BBC/ITV/Sky news spring to mind). This is all naked scaremongering.

Tell us how many of those were hospitalised for other conditions, caught covid while there and what those original conditions were. How many in ITU are morbidly obese?. How many with preventable lung conditions e.g. smokers. How many unvaccinated? That sort of information might make people take steps to improve their lifestyle and their health and get things back to normal.

Full house!

Lies, damn lies and statistics.
Modelling doesn't work.
With/from.
Nosocomial infection.
How many people in ICU are unvaccinated?
How many made bad health decisions?

Covered everything there, I think...

More scaremongering from papers? Says who? Going o crowded areas sans mask and commuting I would have thought were highest risk? We nip to the shops several times a week quick in/quick out! Neither of us had it but we HAVE been vaxxed X 3 is that possibility for reason never had it? We regularly latflo for our hobbies so we know. As for wiping stuff down? I didn't know the old "you get vd from door handles and toilet seats " rules were still believed by anyone with half an education?

I'm pretty sure you can't catch it in Waitrose

JaneJudge

I'm pretty sure you can't catch it in Waitrose

. Oh, no, dear, absolutely not

I’ve done a weekly shop all the way through and still here.

Kathy73

JaneJudge

I'm pretty sure you can't catch it in Waitrose

. Oh, no, dear, absolutely not

Not sure about that…quite a lot of yummy mummies with four wheel drives badly parked outside and nit wearing masks….

THIS REPORT DID NOT SAY YOU WERE IN DANGER OF GETTING COVID IN SUPERMARKETS.

IT SIMPLY LISTED THE PLACES THAT THOSE WHO GOT COVID WERE MORE LIKELY TO HAVE VISITED THAN THOSE WHO DID NOT GET COVID. IT INLUDED SHOPPING (OF ALL KINDS, BUT NOWHERE MENTIONS SUPERMARKETS), PUBLIC TRANSPORT PUBLIC PLACES. SPORTS FIXTURES.

GENERALLY IT SHOWED THAT THOSE WHO GOT OUT AND ABOUT AND MIXED WITH MORE PEOPLE WERE MORE LIKELY TO GET COVID THAN THOSE WHO STAYED AT HOME.

Please try and read and understand what reports actually say, as distinct to what the papers say they said, before rubbishing them.

Keep going M0nica, some of us are getting it. You might want to join our "banging your head against a wall" club?

but going to ikea and sitting on their sofas is like staying at home isn't it. An hour in one of their living rooms, a quick bite to eat in their cafe and then a lie down on one of their beds. Buy some candles on the way out and some mini daims and it's day out at home

i shop one or two times a week and have done since the start of covid, i do not wear a mask as the first couple of times i got into such a state that it brought on seizures due to epilepsy. i am very careful always use sanitizers and ask nicely if someone gets to close, i use the same supermarket as i can get around quickly as i know where everything is. i do a big shop every two months so i usualy only need the basics plus fresh fruit and veg. i test myself twice a week and ever to test kits when i went into hospital. i have been very lucky not to have got covid. i think people can go out as long as they are very careful.

I heard there’s a pandemic.
I do wonder what it takes for folk to stay at home and keep safe and not boast about going out shopping several times a week. No one needs to shop several times every week. Particularly in pandemic times.

MOnicaI am not in a state. I said about the unnecessary rubbish the papers spout and it might cause anxiety in some and make them nervous going out. My neighbour has not been out for nearly 2 years because of his age and he doesn't want to get Covid and there are others like him. I wouldn't say these people have got into a "state". I still go out shopping, for coffee with my friends, but I take care when I do. I've been asked to wear a mask, wash hands, etc and I got jabs to give me peace of mind, which it has done.

I think if someone has not been out for 2 years, they are already in a bad enough 'state' as it is.

This is one of the main reasons we need to start a phased return to normal. We are in danger of a full scale epidemic of people with mental problems, where the dangers of COVID are more than balanced by the damage being done to people's mental health.

JaneJudge

I'm pretty sure you can't catch it in Waitrose

Even if you have a home delivery?
(That sounds like giving birth)

What about B&Q? There was a couple (quite elderly) blocking the aisle and just gazing for ages at something I wanted to look at - if I'd had a trolley I could have nudged them out of the way.

My neighbour has not been out for nearly 2 years because of his age and he doesn't want to get Covid and there are others like him.
That is worrying. I'm not going out as much as I used to but I'm not a recluse. How old is he, Alioop?

As someone a bit older than me said "I don't want to catch Covid so am taking sensible precautions but I might die of something else any time and have had a miserable time for years never going out".

Another who has been shopping throughout, and haven’t caught Covid. I’ve also been to the cinema and theatre. I was twice allowed into my DH’s room in the nursing home when he had Covid in April 2020, I think because they thought he was dying. I wore mask, gloves and apron, and took a dressing gown to wear on top of my clothes, then immediately put it in a plastic bag when I got outside, then straight into the washing machine when I got home. He survived, but died in December 2020, in hospital, where, thankfully, I was allowed to be with him. That was all before my first vaccination. We’ll never know whether it’s down to immunity or luck. I’ve followed all the instructions to the best of my ability, and shopped in Asda at 9.00pm. By the time I left, mine was usually the only car in the car park.

I saw that, too. But immediately thought, "But if you get your shopping delivered, aren't you at the same, or higher, risk because those people delivering it have been in contact with lord-who-knows-what and could still pass it on to us!!
So, take your chances either way, or die of starvation!

This type of over exaggerated and to be honest unscientifically proven rubbish which some people take as gospel is why the media have thrived on all their scaremongering about covid over the past 2 years!! It is absolutely ridiculous and should be stamped out. As someone said, they were at it again at start of December with the nonsense about lack of turkeys. I went into morrisons on Christmas Eve and I could have had the pick of a whole shelf full of turkeys, HALF PRICE, along with all the veg etc. Honestly let's get a grip on this!! This virus is not going away but with vaccines and boosters, scientists are now saying it needs to be looked upon like the flu. The minority who have refused or not had their vaccines are the ones who remain at risk.

Susysue There is nothing wrong with the survey, The reearch was carried out by University College London and shows quite clearly that the more places you go to and the more you mix with people, even if obeying all the rules about masks and distancing, the more likely you are to get COVID, which is what one would expect, but it always pays to investigate the obvious because sometimes the obvious is not true.

The problem then is that once people have made up their minds, they do not like to change them. There is so much research that shows that once people have made up their minds, no matter how much evidence they are given that they have made the wrong decision, they will not change their mind

This survey is a classic example. So many people read reports that said this survey said that you were more likely to catch COVID if you went to a supermarket, that even when it is shown that the newspapers completely misrepresented what the report said, and that the survey was a respectable piece of academic research from a highly reputable academic source. They still keep regurgitating the same inaccurate information and getting all worked up about it.

As research has shown, they have made up their mind and refuse to be confused by the facts.

Calistemon my neighbour is 87 yrs old. When the weather was good he pottered in his garden and sat in his conservatory. I check on him and get him shopping if he runs out of anything between his daughter's visits as she works a lot at a hospital. He sits with his wee dog reading his papers and doing crosswords, etc and says he's happy just doing that and doesn't want to get sick with Covid. It's so true what your friend said to you, but if this is how my neighbour feels and he is a man with his own views and there is no budging him. He's lucky to have a garden, etc but others aren't so lucky and it must have a terrible affect on some.

Rosie your response made me laugh, safer in the pub than a supermarket, I think a lot would say that?
I do think that it’s good to have these surveys etc, then we must determine what we feel ok with. For me to just go out once a week would make me very depressed, I, like a lot of others that live alone need that interaction, I have taken every precaution, been vaccinated, wear masks etc. It’s gone on a long time and it’s going to be about a bit longer, roll on spring and summer.