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The Oscars tonight. Anyone tuning in? ?

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Urmstongran Sun 27-Mar-22 17:23:30

Not me

The Oscars became an irrelevant embarrassment when they started pandering to the demands of every minority group’s bleating.

The horse has bolted, nobody cares anymore. The winners are selected by tokenism and box-ticking; not merit.

People used to watch for the glamour and escapism. They switched off because they are sick of being lectured and subjected to politics. They should just scrap them.

In my opinion.
What do you think?

Callistemon21 Mon 28-Mar-22 19:35:46

I posted this (something similar) on the other thread:

It wasn't violence as such although a slap is not acceptable either.

Violence would have been a punch on the jaw perhaps ending in a proper fisticuffs.

I really think there comes a point when a slap like that may be the only way to get through just how offensive to some people just how truly offensive and bullying they can be.

After years of such remarks from someone we know about DH, me, our children I wouldn't have been sorry if DH had hit him but he didn't (not his way).
"Let it go over your head, ignore him, he's an idiot" is DH's style.
I did give the bully a mouthful in the end (not my style but I had ended in tears too many times).

Iam64 Mon 28-Mar-22 18:41:23

I wonder if Will Smith was entirely sober. Violence isn’t the answer but he seems to have finally reacted to long-standing unfunny ‘jokes’ by Chris Rock, directed at Smith and particularly at Smith’s wife.

A very u funny ‘joke’. Alopecia is a horrible auto immune condition. AI illnesses rarely travel alone, they’re life changing and need constant attention and care. Alopecia is grim, I expect added grim if you live in the public eye, in the ‘industry’ where as a woman, everything you wear, your weight, your hair style are all there to be picked over.

Misogyny? Is it really ok for a male comedian to make this kind of crass ‘joke’

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 28-Mar-22 17:45:55

I think Will Smith has set a very good example. He did what we would all hope our husbands would do in that situation and it took some courage given the very public setting. He's gone up in my estimation.

Coastpath Mon 28-Mar-22 16:58:03

The man made an unkind, very public, bullying joke and not for the first time either. It was spiteful, unprofessional and plain rude. Did he expect that the man would sit there and not defend his wife? He really shouldn't have been so vile and I don't blame Will Smith for giving him a slap.

I would have thought that most men making such an unpleasant public statement about another man's wife would expect a punch on the nose. If not, then he's either very arrogant, very stupid or not at all streetwise.

People are saying that Will Smith has set a bad example, but not standing up to unkindness and bullying is also setting a bad example in my opinion.

timetogo2016 Mon 28-Mar-22 14:56:02

Any publicity is good publicity for some.
The show is so boring someone has to do something to make it in the papers/news/youtube etc.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 28-Mar-22 13:51:03

Do you seriously think that would have been choreographed Urms? At WS’s wife’s expense?

Kate1949 Mon 28-Mar-22 12:13:08

Like I said on the other thread, try losing your hair and have people joke about it. Funny it is not.

Urmstongran Mon 28-Mar-22 12:08:40

Oh dear.

Urmstongran Mon 28-Mar-22 11:49:53

Actually the jury’s out Calli on whether the whole incident was choreographed.
?

Callistemon21 Mon 28-Mar-22 10:35:48

Urmstongran

Will Smith should not have slapped the presenter. Yes, a truly horrid scripted ‘joke’ in poor taste. How many black kids on the street have just had their ideas reinforced that it’s okay to be violent when someone "disrespects" you? Shameful behaviour. Bet his wife was mortified as now the ‘joke’ will stay n minds for years to come for all the wrong reasons.

Not the first time that arrogant present (Chris who?) has made jokes about Will Smith's wife.

No, violence is not acceptable but there also comes a time when it's the only way of stopping a bully.

Callistemon21 Mon 28-Mar-22 10:27:43

I haven't seen it yet but DH told me about it .

Now, I'm not a violent person but well done Will Smith, it might not have been PC but neither is such public verbal abuse acceptable.

Urmstongran Mon 28-Mar-22 10:24:41

Will Smith should not have slapped the presenter. Yes, a truly horrid scripted ‘joke’ in poor taste. How many black kids on the street have just had their ideas reinforced that it’s okay to be violent when someone "disrespects" you? Shameful behaviour. Bet his wife was mortified as now the ‘joke’ will stay n minds for years to come for all the wrong reasons.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 28-Mar-22 09:46:31

I was pleased to see him defending his wife against a cruel joke.

volver Mon 28-Mar-22 09:14:29

Wokery schmokery.

Was it "woke" when Will Smith smacked that other guy round the head?

Sago Mon 28-Mar-22 09:08:59

I totally agree it’s just a political platform, so sad because the industry not all full of pretentious luvvies.

My friends brother was nominated for visual effects on a blockbuster UK film, it’s such an accolade in the industry and it meant so much to him and his family.

It’s just full of wokery now.

25Avalon Mon 28-Mar-22 08:34:29

It’s for themselves more than for us.

PECS Mon 28-Mar-22 08:23:55

DH & I love film & cinema but often the films we prefer are not Hollywood blockbusters though some are Oscar winners.

I think it is right for lobby groups to raise issues of under representation at such events to raise awareness of bias and inequalities. I don't have a problem with that.
It is an industry award event & I would not want to watch the awards for e.g. Car Designer/ Sales of the year & equally I don't want to watch the film world in-crowd either!

mokryna Mon 28-Mar-22 07:15:09

Thank goodness I can listen this morning to BBC 4 as too much time is being spend on the Oscars on ITV.

eazybee Mon 28-Mar-22 07:07:21

Just shows what trash the Oscars are.

Ailidh Mon 28-Mar-22 05:17:29

I see there were alarms and excursions, with Will Smith, whom I've heard of, thumping Chris Rock, whom I've not.

Not condoning thumping or foul language but if the report is right that Rock was taking the p. out of Jada Pinkett Smith's alopecia, I can see why her husband was annoyed.

Callistemon21 Sun 27-Mar-22 23:22:12

We must watch out for it, but whether it would be too worrying and heartbreaking to watch, I'm not sure.

maddyone Sun 27-Mar-22 23:15:56

Thanks Callistemon, which makes his acting in that film wonderful, because he had so many lines in it.

Callistemon21 Sun 27-Mar-22 23:03:25

He's 84, maddyone

maddyone Sun 27-Mar-22 22:55:51

We watched The Father only a couple of weeks ago, at home of course. I thought he was very, very good in it. Such a difficult topic to cover/make into a film.
I’m not surprised he didn’t go last year. I believe he’s about eighty years young now.

Callistemon21 Sun 27-Mar-22 22:54:27

Vanessa ?