Beautiful memorial service for Prince Philip

Anniebach

That was reported in the press !

Have I done something wrong - again?

Our politicians are hardly in a position to criticise Andrew Grany given the sleazy behaviour we have seen from a lot of them

Nothing wrong in repeating what is in the press, perhaps best to mention ‘the Daily whichever claimed ‘

Annie I heard it somewhere on Radio 4 , can’t remember exactly what on.

I don’t read the papers at the moment.

When I said ‘I believe’, I meant that ‘I’m led to believe’.

I didn’t realise that we needed to name our sources now.
Do we have an editorial style which we have to follow?

Philips Memorial Service

Juliette Bryant, a survivor of Epstein’s abuse, said: “It’s not just an insult to the victims – it’s a complete insult towards humanity.”

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/naive-or-blinded-by-affection-either-way-time-queen-hung-up-her-crown?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1648925616

Grany that’s more like it for disciplined and rigorous research!

You may feel entitled to ask questions about Beatrice's suitability for her job, although I would have thought that was the province of the people who employ her and /or pay her salary, but raising it in a thread commenting on a 'Beautiful memorial service for Prince Philip' is not the appropriate place as it has no relevance to the topic under discussion.

Why should anyone think they have the right to interfere in the arrangements of the memorial service of the Queen's husband, or anybody else's?

eazybee

You may feel entitled to ask questions about Beatrice's suitability for her job, although I would have thought that was the province of the people who employ her and /or pay her salary, but raising it in a thread commenting on a 'Beautiful memorial service for Prince Philip' is not the appropriate place as it has no relevance to the topic under discussion.

Things said on this lovely 15-page thread about the memorial service:

Usual M&H attacks. Repeatedly.
Other countries' ceremonies look tacky compared to ours.
How PP wouldn't have been impressed with Harry.
Bit of sarcasm and name calling directed at Drakeford.
Opining that Republicans might as well go and live in Russia.

So wondering about someone's job seems quite tame, by comparison.

Quote from DM
The Dean of Westminster had been expected to take the Monarch to her seat while the Prince followed behind, according to the order of service.

Apparently Andrew will accompany her to the races.

Grany

Philips Memorial Service

Juliette Bryant, a survivor of Epstein’s abuse, said: “It’s not just an insult to the victims – it’s a complete insult towards humanity.”

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/naive-or-blinded-by-affection-either-way-time-queen-hung-up-her-crown?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1648925616

That is a good article Grany.

eazybee

Why should anyone think they have the right to interfere in the arrangements of the memorial service of the Queen's husband, or anybody else's?

They are public figures and, as such, should expect their actions or lifestyles to be commented upon - by the people they allegedly serve.

The Queen didn’t look amazing, she looked grief stricken. Phillip has been denied the ceremony of a full state funeral due to Covid restrictions and his memorial service was shortened due to circumstances. Even I feel that he has been somewhat short changed.
I do wish that Andrew had not crooked his arm in such an awkward fashion. It looked oddly formal.

At a memorial service to a loved one

If the family really wanted a family memorial for " their loved one" they have access to several private chapels where they could have done what most of us do..have a tearful ,sad & happy service crying & laughing remembering special things together with others who loved the deceased.

This was not really the same thing. This was a very public, formal state occasion ..a national event not a private family do!
I'm sure PPs wife, children/ grandchildren were sad..it had only been a year since his death but please stop pretending the public were gatecrashing a private service!

Compassion must be reserved for private memorial services,
if public then ‘let’s mock snd jeer’.

Anniebach

Compassion must be reserved for private memorial services,
if public then ‘let’s mock snd jeer’.

Annie that is not what PECS said at all.

Anniebach they are not going to know what anyone here says..nor care if they did! My point is that as public figures they are very used to managing public & state occasions & need them to perpetuate their status and will have a team to field any public criticism. There was no need to hold this event.

Lucca difficult for some, not all, republicans to understand,
there were many who wanted to see and hear the memorial
service and not because they wanted to mock the bereaved.

The mocking and criticism on this thread is brutal and a link
to the Daily Mail, a newspaper scorned on this forum is now
applauded , so hypocritical.

Anniebach I've run through the thread twice and I can't see any links to the Daily Mail, let alone anybody applauding it.

I feel sorry for the queen losing her husband. He was a great support to her all those years. It's very sad. I watched the service, and I was shocked when she walked in supported by Andrew. As were many. It took the focus away from PP.
It shouldn't have happened.

This was to all intents and purposes a state funeral. Due to the circumstances at the time of Philip’s death, a state funeral was not possible. I understand that it was the Queen’s wish that her husband be commemorated in this way. Other bereaved families who were denied a proper funeral because of Covid could also choose to hold a memorial service for their loved one if they so wish. Many members of the public wanted to feel part of this and they chose to tune in and watch on television. I didn’t because I wasn’t in the country at the time, although I did watch the funeral last year. I think I’ve become a republican (for a variety of reasons) although I was a monarchist for most of my life, because I don’t really like the idea of one family, through their birth, as being more worthy than other people. To me, they are not more worthy, all life is precious. I think the main issue about the memorial service seems to be Andrew. Personally I don’t think he should have accompanied his mother to her seat, although I think it was the Queen who decided he should. In my opinion her judgement was poor in this instance, because it is only six weeks since he paid a very large settlement in respect of the rape allegation, which while not proved, looks very suspicious re the allegation. With regard to Beatrice crying, I felt sorry for her in exactly the same way that I would feel sorry for anyone crying and grieving a family member. Grief feels the same whether you are rich or poor.

I quoted from the DM. But I could have quoted from other sources. Applaud?

One could see it as a cynical PR manoeuvre , or accept it as
a decision that seemed logical & acceptable to the RF on a personal level .
Families hey, dammed if you do , dammed if you don’t.

Parsley3

The Queen didn’t look amazing, she looked grief stricken. Phillip has been denied the ceremony of a full state funeral due to Covid restrictions and his memorial service was shortened due to circumstances. Even I feel that he has been somewhat short changed.
I do wish that Andrew had not crooked his arm in such an awkward fashion. It looked oddly formal.

He was probably tensing and cooking his arm so that if the Queen were to stumble, he would be able to prevent her falling.