Beautiful memorial service for Prince Philip

Thank you Dickens, spot on

FannyCornforth

I’ll answer your question Brigeit

Not many people start threads

Threads evolve, like conversations

Everyone is allowed to say what they like on a thread, within decency

... and it was inevitable that someone would at some point raise the issue of Andrew - and comment on the absence of H&M - or just H.

No conversations / discussions about the Queen are ever complete unless A or H&M are brought into them.

I have no idea what the Queen thinks or feels or how much time she ponders over these issues, whether she's pragmatic, philosophical, or what. And I'm guessing (speculating) that her own increasing frailty coupled with getting used to life without her consort, occupies her mind, somewhat.

I also wonder what she would make of the - literally thousands upon thousands - disparaging comments about H&M on various social media sites. All said out of pity and 'respect' for "our" Queen. H&M are 'black sheep' - lots of families have them - and still love them. In this respect, she might find such comments hurtful. Queen she may be, but she's also a human being. Of course, she won't be reading social media sites I'm guessing, so it doesn't matter in fact what nasty things are said about her grandson, but it matters in principle.

I'm not a Monarchist, but I do have a soft spot for Elizabeth.

Your question came immediately after my posts, and so I wondered if you were addressing me Bregeit. Apologies if I misunderstood. I was fairly sure I hadn’t been sarcastic though.

I’ll answer your question Brigeit

Not many people start threads

Threads evolve, like conversations

Everyone is allowed to say what they like on a thread, within decency

??? Is who talking to who.
I have asked a question .

No sarcasm in expressing sorrow for someone grieving

Are you talking to me?

What is the point in comparing entirely different situations , subjects?
Why not start another thread about your own pet hates/ likes instead of injecting sarcastic barbs into another.

I understand what you’re saying volver.
I also feel sorry for the York girls Fanny. I would feel sorry for anyone being pulled through the court of public opinion when they have done nothing to deserve it. They must love their parents, but to watch all this being played out in the media must be very hard for them.

She was probably crying because she had just found out that not only was her father involved in sex trafficking, but now her parents have been involved in a fraud.

Compassion for a young woman experiencing grief due to the death of her grandfather? I think not!
It is simply a unkind comment which I suspect you would not have made about anyone else in this sorry situation. Beatrice has done no wrong and is not responsible for the wrong doings of her parents, which let’s not forget, have not been tested in a court of law.

I can’t help but feel very, very sorry for what Beatrice and Eugenie have been through with their father.
In such an incredibly public way too.
I hope that they have good therapists

It's the double standards maddyone.

M has said she was suicidal but got some terrible abuse on here for that. So some people (Beatrice) are to be pitied but some (Meghan) are nasty gold digging jezebels who deserve all they get.

I understand your point volver but can’t answer your question. You’d have to ask someone who has said something horrid about H+M.
I’ll have a guess though. Some people dislike H+M because they have left the job, the royal family job, and because of the interview in which they criticised the royal family. However I’m not sure that Beatrice has left the job (she has never had a royal family job anyway) nor done an interview critical of her family (but could hardly blame her if she did given her father’s antics) but has instead appeared to behave in an entirely appropriate way as far as we know.
When I see someone crying and upset due to a death in the family I feel compassion for that person whoever they are. Death is part of life, but it is a difficult part of life. I felt for Beatrice when I saw her crying. She was experiencing an emotion that is common to us all, rich or poor. My son aged 42 cried bitterly at the funeral, and afterwards, of his 94 year old grandmother last December. It’s grief and we all feel it.

volver

Well, maybe some people dislike the York girls.

It doesn't matter. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Oh , but they were so marvellous in The Windsors!

Some believe money protects from emotional pain.

I have criticised Harry for the Oprah interview and public criticism of his father and grandparents method of parenting.

I don’t recall Beatrice giving interviews or writing books.

Those two sisters have suffered so much yet remain loyal to
their parents and grandparents, this cannot be said of H & M.

maddyone

Your comment Whitewave clearly shows that you do not have any compassion for a young woman crying because she misses her grandfather, simply because she’s very privileged in terms of monetary wealth.
If you prick her, she will still bleed. It was a nasty comment and I’m not the only one who has called you out for it.

Well there is a massive assumption.

I did not mention the woman’s wealth, simply that my compassion for her, matched her compassion for the young woman trying to manage.

Well, maybe some people dislike the York girls.

It doesn't matter. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Volver I expect that it’s because many people dislike H&M, to varying degrees; and despise some, or many, of the things that they have done and said.

maddyone

Your comment Whitewave clearly shows that you do not have any compassion for a young woman crying because she misses her grandfather, simply because she’s very privileged in terms of monetary wealth.
If you prick her, she will still bleed. It was a nasty comment and I’m not the only one who has called you out for it.

But maddyone, why is it OK to say the most terrible things about M&H, but not anybody else?

Your comment Whitewave clearly shows that you do not have any compassion for a young woman crying because she misses her grandfather, simply because she’s very privileged in terms of monetary wealth.
If you prick her, she will still bleed. It was a nasty comment and I’m not the only one who has called you out for it.

maddyone

Whitewavemark2

She was probably crying because she had just found out that not only was her father involved in sex trafficking, but now her parents have been involved in a fraud.

Naturally Windsor knows nothing about it, and in any case has paid back the money fraudulently obtained.

Do you not have an ounce of human compassion? Unbelievable comment! And I’m a republican.

I have as much compassion for the young woman crying at a service for her grandfather, as that young womanhas for the young woman on LBC who only ever eats what her children have left over, who works full time and simply does not have enough to cover her bills, and who is clearly utterly worn down by trying to manage

From the OP:

Seems a bit cruel to do that to an old lady, in what could be one of her last public engagements.

Are we only allowed to be critical certain members of the family? We need a list...

Whitewavemark2

She was probably crying because she had just found out that not only was her father involved in sex trafficking, but now her parents have been involved in a fraud.

Naturally Windsor knows nothing about it, and in any case has paid back the money fraudulently obtained.

Do you not have an ounce of human compassion? Unbelievable comment! And I’m a republican.

"To Be a Pilgrim" is one of my fav hymns, words and music. I also like the reading from Isaiah "They shall mount up with wings as eagles" and I keep the quotation on a sticky note

I’ll take no lesson from those who trash one member of the royal family but complain bitterly when I and others criticise another member, who clearly had dealings with the gutter members of society.