I know it’s crappy plastic trash, but……

I sometimes feel the same, when GDs ask for these dolls. Total plastic and in plastic wrappings, but childhood is so fleeting I really don’t want them to feel disappointed. There’s enough time for that.
The LOL dolls have bits that are opened separately, shoes etc and are different with each doll. A second hand one is likely to be played with and have bits missing.
I feel new and plastic is off set by the bikes and bigger toys being passed down through the family.

My eight year old granddaughter has one and loves it. I didn’t buy it though. I usually buy whatever my daughter suggests. It’s difficult if your daughter buys from EBay and then expects you to do the same. I hope your little one enjoys her doll from you.

I try not to buy plastic toys but I think if the doll can be passed on and is not just discarded then it's not as bad.
I have just bought a plastic tractor for my GS ?

I buy plastic toys if that’s what my grandchildren would like! I much prefer wooden toys, they all have a mixture of both! But like J52 says childhood is so fleeting! I want them to enjoy all their toys

Sorry Witzend but ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ to your daughter actions.

I would do the same as you Witzend.
I’m sure most of us are doing our best to avoid plastic, but I wouldn’t be so fanatical about it that I wouldn’t buy my little granddaughter her heart’s desire for her birthday!
Secondhand stuff has its place of course but for a birthday it has to be brand new surely?

Just my opinion of course.
Some won’t agree!

Awww she's only 7 and needs to enjoy the innocence of childhood while she can. I'm glad you've ordered her one Witzend.

Oh Witzend….you know the pleasure of something brand new and shiny never touched by anyone else! I still remember longing for a shop bought jumper when I was small. It will be a really special present!

ps I do agree with your daughter too!

My little granddaughter was very fond of these dolls a couple of years ago. The anticipation and excitement of unwrapping the layers, using the little key etc was a sight to behold. That stage will be missing from a second hand one unless it’s actually being sold unused and and still boxed up.

I’m with you Witzend. I’d buy her a new one. I do my best with recycling, avoiding plastics as much as possible. But for my little granddaughter’s birthday I’d make an exception.

Just tell her all the second hand ones had felt tip pen on their bodies and their hair had been cut

JaneJudge

Just tell her all the second hand ones had felt tip pen on their bodies and their hair had been cut

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You will have to say you could not find one when you were looking so had to buy new to make sure you had it in time for her birthday, I think your GD deserves new, just make sure you up the anti re plastic on something else so you can square it with your conscience.

You can recycle the cardboard and plastic that makes up the packaging. Getting new for your birthday means a lot.

Re wooden toys, all very well when they’re very little - I’ve bought plenty - but when they’re a bit bigger the things they want don’t usually come in wood.

My niece loves these. Of course it should be a new shiny one for her birthday.

When I've taken a pile of toys (some wooden) to the charity shop at least the plastic ones can be washed first.

We've got toys from the DC which the DGC played with and had some hand-me-downs from a neighbour which our DGC played with and handed on to someone else.

When I asked the manager of the charity shop if she wanted a pile of wooden bricks she said yes please - her customers buying toys are usually grandparents who want them for when the DGC visit.

There's nothing as good as a brand new toy, a new book, though, for a young child

Let her have an occasional toy that is new to her!

I have just bought a new steam mop (my old one, bought refurbished very cheaply ten years ago, is now unusable, having fallen over several times due to its topheavy design, and been stuck together with duck tape until it is more tape than plastic handle)

I could have had a refurbished older model at a third of the price, but I ordered a shiny new latest version. It came with a bag of thirteen accessories, most of which I doubt I will never use, but I am more pleased with it than I would have been with another refurbished one. I may even use all those accessories to make my house look shiny and new too!

I agree with the daughter here. I wonder why you think your DGD will notice or remember that it’s all new? Second hand ones can be like new and unplayed with if you look around. It’s more about you than her, surely. You can always put it in a decorated box with loads of ribbons. Still, that plastic will still be in the ground in 500 years time when we’ve all been wiped out so who cares. I have bought some 1970s Sasha vinyl dolls ( anyone remember these? They were made in England ) and made new outfits for them, some I’ve sold at a good profit on eBay, so second hand is an option for some desirable vintage toys.

Practically everything contains plastic. I doubt we would ever be able to live without it. Of course people will say they avoid all things plastic but they don't. It's impossible.

moralfibres.co.uk/11-surprising-items-that-contain-plastic/

Healthcare uses vast amounts of one use plastics.

I'm sure your GDD will love her doll and I'm glad you have purchased a new one.

I have bought some 1970s Sasha vinyl dolls ( anyone remember these?

I certainly do remember them, vegansrock! I adore my Sasha dolls. My Great Aunt got me quite a few for birthdays and Christmas's.

I'm actually in some Sasha groups on Facebook. I was amazed to read about how they restring and repair damaged ones. They are worth a lot of money today! However mine are staying with me

She certainly would know, vegansrock. She’s had enough 2nd hand stuff before.,
You would approve of her diet, though - except for eggs from their own chickens, she is vegan. (Veggan)

I wonder why nobody ever calls Lego plastic crap? (Or do they?)
Is that because it does tend to be more a boys’ thing than a girls’? (Yes, I do know girls play with it too.)
Is it only typically girls’ toys that are scorned as plastic crap?

Lego sells for a lot of ££ second hand you can by it by the kilo. I doubt you can say the same about Chinese made flimsy doll especially if people think they can only buy new. No it’s not a gender thing, as I said before Sasha dolls sell for a mint have a look at eBay.

When mine were young we mainly bough Fisher Price toys on recommendation as they are such strong well made toys.
They did for all of mine and now our grandchildren enjoy playing with them when we have them here.

Yes the toys are made from plastic but they have lasted forty years in some cases, unlike the cheaper alternatives we could have bought.

I do buy wooden toys for the grandchildren but have no regrets about the Fisher Price ones we bought.