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petunia Tue 19-Apr-22 09:10:07

I saw a photograph today showing male mannequins in a men's shop. The mannequins were all very overweight with huge bellies. The male mannequins were easily into the morbidly obese category.

With parts of the women's fashion industry catering for larger ladies also, with very rounded models, often morbidly obese, is this the way forward? Having slim mannequins shows off clothes beautifully and for most people, slim is healthier. But most women aren't tall and slender, many are short and round.

Are we normalising a growing trend of obesity or is this just reflecting reality? Will we become so used to the larger models that we accept our own increasing waistlines as normal.

nipsmum Wed 20-Apr-22 15:38:54

Looking at fashion models I've never been able to buy or wear what they are modelling. I've never been more than 5 ft. Weighed between size 10 and 14 and living on very modest wages( nurses were never well paid and now on a pension so unable to spend £90 + on a dress, there is no hope on that score . So I'll just stick to my loose tops and fairly well fitting trousers.

Chestnut Wed 20-Apr-22 15:41:10

Ah, I see what you mean Doodledog. I have just checked and I did gain about three stone back in 2004 due to thyroid, so I guess I was 'big' in both senses back then. Personally, I would never describe any woman as big whether they're tall or obese, but lots of people do and I don't like it either way. I suppose I was sensitive about the term being used for obese people as it implied I was obese when I wasn't. I'm probably not explaining this very well so I'll end there!

Chestnut Wed 20-Apr-22 15:44:15

Surely the answer is to have a computerised display showing the clothes on a computerised model with your height and measurements, then everyone would have their own individual model! ?

Doodledog Wed 20-Apr-22 15:44:46

Chestnut

I don't get your drift, Doodledog, but I guess it all depends on what we read into words. Sorry to hear you've gained weight from an underactive thyroid. I also have that and did gain weight for a while, but the thyroxine will sort you out so don't worry. They will find the correct dosage.

Thanks. I hope so.

My drift was that it is pretty hurtful to learn that you are insulted when someone uses the same term to describe me as the one used to describe you.

Doodledog Wed 20-Apr-22 15:45:24

Sorry - I missed your last post smile

Blondiescot Wed 20-Apr-22 17:51:26

Growing0ldDisgracefully

Blondiescot which company is that please? 5' 2" and on the plump side is exactly my dimensions!
Yes, it is time companies catered for all with adverts or models for something other than the "ideal? " tall skinny young customer.

Sorry, only just saw this - the company was Yours.

mokryna Wed 20-Apr-22 18:14:08

Chestnut

Surely the answer is to have a computerised display showing the clothes on a computerised model with your height and measurements, then everyone would have their own individual model! ?

That would be fun. Have your own measurements on your computer and see clothes on the model of your size without trying them on but I would want to do it in privately.
Surely, it must exist somewhere considering web games where they create people.

songstress60 Wed 20-Apr-22 18:15:11

I don't want to look at manequins of overweight people. Don't care if this is body shaming. We have an obesity crisis in UK and people need to face up to it. Being fat is NOT normal and should not be normalised.

rafichagran Wed 20-Apr-22 18:29:42

MissAdventure

The mannequin looks fine to me.
Not model sized, but I wouldn't say grossly overweight.

I agree, I am curvy, love my shape, choose clothes to suit me. I am not fat, dont diet, and I love the curvy manakin,
Some people are obsessed, with weight. Nothing wrong with seeing all shapes and sizes to model the clothes.

MissAdventure Wed 20-Apr-22 18:31:08

Oh good.
I'm glad someone agrees. smile

homefarm Wed 20-Apr-22 18:42:46

This world is populated by many different kinds of people - why so judgemental ? Not all are perfect, slim and young.

Doodledog Wed 20-Apr-22 18:52:53

songstress60

I don't want to look at manequins of overweight people. Don't care if this is body shaming. We have an obesity crisis in UK and people need to face up to it. Being fat is NOT normal and should not be normalised.

Many people don't want to listen to the judgements of rude people. I don't care if this is outspoken. We have a manners crisis in the UK, and people need to face up to it. Being rude is NOT normal and should not be normalised.

MissAdventure Wed 20-Apr-22 18:55:47

It's a touch of the old "I speak as I find, me".

rafichagran Wed 20-Apr-22 18:56:55

Songstess you dont care about body shaming people The only shame should be what you feel, very unnecessary comment.

Blondiescot Wed 20-Apr-22 18:57:14

songstress60

I don't want to look at manequins of overweight people. Don't care if this is body shaming. We have an obesity crisis in UK and people need to face up to it. Being fat is NOT normal and should not be normalised.

Well don't look then! How does it affect you in any way? What does affect people like me who are - in your own words 'NOT normal' is being judged - and yes, shamed - by rude and ignorant people like you. How is the rarefied air up there on that moral high ground, by the way?

Namsnanny Wed 20-Apr-22 19:08:46

There is a dichotomy about how we view weight. Anorexia is an illness. Obesity is a character flaw.

Namsnanny Wed 20-Apr-22 19:11:57

mokryna

Chestnut

Surely the answer is to have a computerised display showing the clothes on a computerised model with your height and measurements, then everyone would have their own individual model! ?

That would be fun. Have your own measurements on your computer and see clothes on the model of your size without trying them on but I would want to do it in privately.
Surely, it must exist somewhere considering web games where they create people.

I saw something about this in the paper the other day.
'Coming to a store near you!'

lizzypopbottle Wed 20-Apr-22 19:54:10

CBT61 My mother became very outspoken and lost the capacity for tact and consideration for other's feelings. It was the start of vascular dementia.

MissAdventure Wed 20-Apr-22 20:00:35

smile

lizzypopbottle Wed 20-Apr-22 20:27:25

Sewing patterns are becoming much more size inclusive. Here's an example. The independent pattern companies are leading the way but the old, established, big name pattern companies are catching up.

Blinko Wed 20-Apr-22 20:49:17

MissAdventure

Has she thought of joining gransnet? smile

????

kwest Wed 20-Apr-22 22:14:18

CBT please have a quiet word with your mother about the way she is behaving. Being 86 does not give people a license to be hurtful and unkind. You are not her own private emotional punch-bag.

BigBertha1 Wed 20-Apr-22 22:17:14

You still have shops in your town????

BigBertha1 Wed 20-Apr-22 22:19:24

Obesity is a character flaw Namsnanny? Well this flawed character thinks you are talking through your hat.

MissAdventure Wed 20-Apr-22 22:23:30

I think namsnanny meant that people would be sensitive to someone who was underweight, whereas some don't care if they offend an overweight person.