Pamper parties for children

4allweknow

What have these children got to look forward to with pamper parties tanning, false eyelashes and nails at such young ages. What do the boys get, a salon haircut!

Where did the tanning and false eyelashes come from? Nothing about them in OP.

I am ok with the 'low level stuff' - nail polishe, pedicures, sparkly gloss etc mentioned in OP.

I'm imagining a group of 6 year olds with big black eyebrows and mahogany brown tans now.

MissAdventure

I'm imagining a group of 6 year olds with big black eyebrows and mahogany brown tans now.

I guess they will be in our part of the world then

Of course!

MissAdventure

Maybe have a look at it, and see what a lovely mum she is to her disabled son?
More than one way to be vulgar, I think.

Well....having had a quick look at it, mainly last two pages, she doesn’t seem to be held in that high regard there either.

I admit....I know nothing about her now. I was talking about a few years ago, and the affect she had on this one girl.

I’ll consider myself well and truly reprimanded.

This thread is a contradiction

Some posters say they want kids to remain kids.

However, some threads are posted about the children's behaviour and the poster's unrealistic expectations for the child for their age

What is it? You want them to be kids or to follow your standards?

Hithere

This thread is a contradiction

Some posters say they want kids to remain kids.

However, some threads are posted about the children's behaviour and the poster's unrealistic expectations for the child for their age

What is it? You want them to be kids or to follow your standards?

Not sure what you're saying? Presumably it's not the same posters in both cases?

Yes, vintage

Separation anxiety in young kids and babies is the parents' fault for being overprotective, not a normal phase of life

Children using diapers after 3 years of age is a red flag for some

Naps for babies are adaptable to adults visits

Young children and toddlers are supposed to seat and behave during a family meal at restaurant - remain seated, use utensils, aka be seen but not heard

So what is it.... let kids be kids (no pamper parties) or ask them to behave in a way they have no capability of yet due to their age?
You cannot have both

Capable of

You make no sense.

Apologies. My last post probably sounded abrupt and rude. But I genuinely don't understand what your point is.

No worries

Some posters want kids to remain kids but ask them to grow up too fast for other things to fulfill adults' expectations- that is the contradiction I see

Young children and toddlers are supposed to seat and behave during a family meal at restaurant - remain seated, use utensils, aka be seen but not heard.

I really don't think that teaching kids social skills - not to mention 'manners' during mealtimes - is really in the same vein as them being "seen but no heard".

I think the more parents interact with their children - talking to them and listening to them, the more well-behaved they are.

I've seen some appalling behaviour in supermarket 'chain' cafes and restaurants with kids uprooting planters, throwing food on the floor - using the floor as a slide - bumping into staff and other customer's tables. And - nearly always - the parents are chatting to the other adults, or scrolling through their iPhones. I believe some parents now just dump their kids in front of the TV with a plate of food and leave them to it... as opposed to sitting down together for a meal. They are not even treating them as members of the family.

I believe in teaching kids manners

Now, expecting a 5 year old to sit continuously in a restaurant for 1 hour or more - no, I don't

Manners are subjective

How does that equate to pamper parties?

I would certainly expect a five year old to sit still at a restaurant table for an hour.

I think it does children a huge disservice to think they're unable to sit at a table and use cutlery these days.
They can actually enjoy it, too.
Imagine that!

MissAdventure

I think it does children a huge disservice to think they're unable to sit at a table and use cutlery these days.
They can actually enjoy it, too.
Imagine that!

I took my son to a restaurant for the first time when he was 4 where we stayed for over an hour.

He used the cutlery ( they gave him smaller versions) and managed to sit at the table. We chatted to him and he was fascinated by all that was going on around him, often staring open-mouthed at the waiters rushing around. Towards the end of the meal he got sleepy and simply nodded-off in his chair.

This was nothing remarkable, it was quite normal to see children in restaurants eating dinner with their parents and not running around (1975).

I think the 'secret' is engagement - treating them as a family member and not just indulging in adult conversation but including them in it.

He doesn't remember the occasion, but he does remember sampling different restaurants as he grew up and his own son chose a meal in an Indian restaurant with his best friend as his birthday dinner treat on his 8th birthday. He's been 'eating out' since age 3... and I don't think this is unusual. Certainly not in other parts of Europe.