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Baby P's mother to be released

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snowberryZ Thu 05-May-22 17:59:51

Who makes these decisions?confused

news.sky.com/story/baby-p-tracey-connelly-set-to-be-released-from-prison-after-government-challenge-rejected-12606001

Kate1949 Thu 05-May-22 22:16:08

It's heartbreaking. And now little Arthur's murderers are appealing against their convictions. Beautiful baby Leiland Corkhill now killed by the woman who 'hoped to adopt him'. sadangry

volver Thu 05-May-22 22:16:00

Nobody's allowing such a thing, are they?

Well some of us don't agree with your favoured approach.

I mean, you might get someone's name wrong and punish the wrong person.

Robin49 Thu 05-May-22 22:13:30

volver

Let's just have a quick overview before I leave...

13 years counts as "soon", she deserves to rot, some people hope she is murdered, she'll probably be pregnant soon and they should take any (hypothetical) babies away from her...

Its like the Handmaids Tale. angry

Yes, well summed up.

tickingbird Thu 05-May-22 22:07:49

Sorry, I didn't realise we'd moved back to medieval times.

No we’ve moved into allowing babies and young children to be tortured, starved and psychologically terrorised and get upset because some are, quite reasonably, outraged by it. Still, we mustn’t be judgemental - that’s just the pits.

Incidentally, her boyfriend also raped her two year old daughter. Quite honestly, if she isn’t a case for enforced sterilisation I don’t know who is.

MissAdventure Thu 05-May-22 22:06:58

Would they start with Putin?
Plenty wish him to be killed.
Is there some sort of grading system for the disposal of undesirables, and how does that work?

Iam64 Thu 05-May-22 22:04:43

To live

Iam64 Thu 05-May-22 22:04:30

HowVeryDareYou

Disgusting. I truly hope someone gets her and finishes her off, but I expect she'll be given a new identity, somewhere to live, financial benefits, some type of protection, and she'll carry on with her life.

So you’d like ‘someone’ to kill this woman. Which someone do you suggest? Psychopaths anonymous to identify a suitable assassin to murder this woman and crack on BBC with the rest of their lives killing the occasional person some random stranger deems unfit to j

volver Thu 05-May-22 21:53:41

HowVeryDareYou

Volver....... You think I'm vile? Have a read again about what that evil cow did, and have another think. What's wrong with you?

You might want to read the 20:02 post again then consider keeping your tongue in check.

HowVeryDareYou Thu 05-May-22 21:50:27

Volver....... You think I'm vile? Have a read again about what that evil cow did, and have another think. What's wrong with you?

Mine Thu 05-May-22 21:39:07

Sorry but in my view she should NEVER be allowed out of prison...What if she goes on to have more children and they are immediately removed from her...What a stigma they will carry through their whole life knowing what their biological mother did to their brother...Will totally shape them for the whole of their life's...Dont believe anyone deserves freedom if they take the life of a wee innocent child!!!

JaneJudge Thu 05-May-22 21:37:26

It was appalling what happened but the two men involved and the Mum herself have learning/emotional and behavioural difficulties which were not dealt with properly or treated when they were children. I'm not excusing what happened but society doesn't learn from letting down vulnerable children and all it does is harm other children people too

MissAdventure Thu 05-May-22 21:26:45

So, find more appropriate punishments/rehab for those imprisoned for minor crimes, and keep prisons for the worst perpetrators.
And really, do they come any worse than this?

Iam64 Thu 05-May-22 21:23:32

We have far too many people in prison. This woman committed a hideous crime, the people entrusted with risk assessment conclude she can be released, on life licence.
If she gets pregnant, there will be safeguarding meetings. It seems unlikely she’d be deemed safe as a parent, we don’t and can’t know that.

Two children each week die because their parents/carers murder or neglect them. That in no way diminishes what this woman did and allowed to happen. But, it’s why we have safeguarding procedures

MissAdventure Thu 05-May-22 21:17:52

I meant to address that to volver, except I'm about 3 posts behind. smile
Fingers are playing up.

DaisyAnne Thu 05-May-22 21:11:29

MissAdventure

You could have used a,like button there, if we had one. smile

If only. And I could have done on this ... confused err, except it wouldn't be necessary.

Ladyleftfieldlover Thu 05-May-22 21:10:58

She’s served her sentence and will be on licence for the rest of her life. Any children she has in the future will be taken off her at birth. This is how the law works in a democracy whether we like it or not.

DaisyAnne Thu 05-May-22 21:09:49

MissAdventure

I'm sure she never was a danger to the public.

I doubt that she was too. What we need to be sure of is that she is being supported.

Blossoming Thu 05-May-22 21:02:08

This will actually be the second time she has been released on licence. She was recalled after breaching the conditions.

MissAdventure Thu 05-May-22 21:00:24

You could have used a,like button there, if we had one. smile

volver Thu 05-May-22 20:57:08

DaisyAnne

MissAdventure

I don't believe in an eye for an eye.
I do think some people have no place to be out and about in society.
As,for children being removed (fictional ones at the moment) I know social services do a actually do that, so are you condemning them?

They have gone through the process and she is not seen as a danger to the public. She will be on parole and can be returned at any time. So what is the uproar about? The crime was appauling but you will not reverse it by tearing up our legal structure.

And this.

volver Thu 05-May-22 20:56:17

DaisyAnne

I think the Government has said a Minister should overrule the law in cases like this. The start of the slipery slope. I wonder how their wives will feel when they have taken enough power to themselves to punish them for reading.

This. Definitely this.

MissAdventure Thu 05-May-22 20:53:58

Yes, she is.
Not that I agree with them...

volver Thu 05-May-22 20:53:06

DaisyAnne is making some very valid points while I rant on. ?

MissAdventure Thu 05-May-22 20:52:23

I'm sure she never was a danger to the public.

MissAdventure Thu 05-May-22 20:50:54

grin
On here? Never would I expect that.