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Biscuitmuncher Wed 11-May-22 00:26:32

Was at a lovely Jewellery stall today. For sale was rather expensive gold stacking bangles. I asked how much are the slave bangles, well the man selling them said, " we don't call them that anymore" and my daughters with me were horrified. I feel like the worst person!

volver Fri 13-May-22 09:32:09

Ohhh, get you!!! grin

FannyCornforth Fri 13-May-22 09:27:53

Oh! A couple of years ago I visited Elgar’s old house The Laskett.
It now belongs to Sir Roy Strong; although I think he has since sold it.
I had tea with Sir Roy at his invitation ??

volver Fri 13-May-22 09:19:22

An Elgar place wink

FannyCornforth Fri 13-May-22 09:16:51

Dare I ask whereabouts in the Midlands you lived volver?
If you are feeling coy, you could give me a clue smile

volver Fri 13-May-22 09:04:57

I'm sure we'd chum along just fine Marydoll smile

Marydoll Fri 13-May-22 08:26:05

Well, Volver, 99% isn't too bad really! I am beginning to feel we could be Scottish pals, we seem to be agreeing on a number of subjects, recently. ?

As a pedant, I must correct my unforgivable error, well it is to me. wink

occasionally

volver Fri 13-May-22 08:08:27

I 100% agree with Marydoll. Except about Jock. When I was in my 20s and lived in the Midlands, some people thought it was funny to call me Jock. Yes, I am female. Maybe it's scarred me for life. ?

Marydoll Fri 13-May-22 07:45:24

Fanny, it is not derogatory and the most important word is pal!
I am a bit of a pedant/ purist when it comes to the use of language. I used the word in accordance with the definition, nothing unpleasant about at all.!

I have quite a few sassenach friends on GN, all of whom I am delighted to have gotten to know. This anti Scottish/ English attitude does rear its head occassionaly, but it is rare.

I think some posters haven't quite grasped what the difference between using words like Taffy and Jock and Chinkie and Paki. In my opinion, the latter are referring to race, that's why they can be construed as racial slurs. There will be some, who may disagree, but I will continue to remind anyone in my company, that they are unacceptable terms.

FannyCornforth Fri 13-May-22 06:41:37

Marydoll I like being called your ‘sassenach pal’, I never thought of it as derogatory. smile
I must be extremely ignorant of Anglo-Scottish relations as I didn’t know that is was a ‘bad’ word.
In fact - I honestly (hand on heart) didn’t realise that some English people had a problem with Scotland and it’s residents.
It’s only since being on GN that I have seen anti Scottish sentiments; even racism at times.
Another (English) poster pointed out its’ occurrence to me.
I was honestly shocked.
Perhaps is not a thing in the English Midlands ?‍♀️

Lizbethann55 Thu 12-May-22 23:30:49

My DD was taken out for a Greek this very evening. As she is very newly single, I do hope it was a meal originating from the country of Greece that she had gone out for.

My DS, an actor , recently didn't get an audition for a play because they wanted someone from " the Global Family". Apparently that is the theatrical expression for anyone not white.

Deedaa Thu 12-May-22 20:50:26

I tend to describe people by their country of origin. For instance one of DD's best friends comes from Kenya - that's all you need to know. One of my grandson's friends comes from Malawi. We never discuss his family's colour, he's just Peter and his mother is Peter's mum..

Marydoll Thu 12-May-22 20:28:04

MissAdventure

I'm feeling scunnered myself, Marydoll flowers

I'm not surprised Miss A. I hope you can make some progress soon. ?

BoadiceaJones Thu 12-May-22 20:17:15

Then there is your very own British love story of inter-cultural marriage. The Palmyrene merchant Barates, from Syria, with a business on Hadrian's Wall, bought a slavegirl from down south, maybe in the Hertfordshire area, freed her and married her. His cry of anguish inscribed on her tombstone when she died young says it all.
blog.twmuseums.org.uk/the-regina-tombstone/

MissAdventure Thu 12-May-22 20:08:56

I'm feeling scunnered myself, Marydoll flowers

Marydoll Thu 12-May-22 20:06:52

Thank you, BoadiceaJones. This has turned into a interesting and informative thread.

Marydoll Thu 12-May-22 20:04:54

MissAdventure

Scunnered. smile

My favourite word ever. It is untranslatable, but describes exactly how I feel just now. Sigh!

BoadiceaJones Thu 12-May-22 19:41:58

Maddyone
Anyone know why they’re called slave bangles then?

hannahancientpompeii.weebly.com/jewellery-in-pompeii.html

Found on the arm of a young woman in the ruins of a cheap hotel in Pompeii. Inscribed "dominus ancillae suae" - a master to his slave girl. This is what I have always known as a "slave bracelet".

Callistemon21 Thu 12-May-22 19:25:47

25Avalon

You have crockles and emmets in Devon and Cornwall. I don’t mind being called a sassenach. There are some lovely Scottish words such as dreich to describe a dark rainy misty day. I learnt this from our shop owner who is a Scot.

Grockles (visitors)

If you move there from elsewhere, you're a furriner.

hollysteers Thu 12-May-22 19:17:41

Many taken for granted phrases have disappeared (I think!) over the years. Being dark, I remember people commenting that I had “A touch of the tarbrush” was an “exotic” combination with my blonde husband and an early boyfriend who said I looked as if I should be out selling pegs, which completely bemused me.
A colleague would greet me each day with a different Old Testament name, “Hi Naomi” Ruth, etc etc. None of this bothered me but often humour is the excuse for these comments.
My sister introduced her Naples born, but here since the age of five boyfriend to my Aunt and Uncle. As he left, my Uncle shouted “Bye Pedro, nice to meet you”. He wasn’t pleased as it wasn’t his name. He was handsome in a Robert de Niro type of way.

MissAdventure Thu 12-May-22 19:15:50

I love "Haste ye back". smile
I always got told that when I left..

MissAdventure Thu 12-May-22 19:08:16

Scunnered. smile

25Avalon Thu 12-May-22 17:15:30

You have crockles and emmets in Devon and Cornwall. I don’t mind being called a sassenach. There are some lovely Scottish words such as dreich to describe a dark rainy misty day. I learnt this from our shop owner who is a Scot.

icanhandthemback Thu 12-May-22 16:16:23

Casdon, when ordering in a takeaway, I quite often hear, "Would you like an Indian or a Chinese?" but if it was an Italian takeaway or Greek takeaway, they'd say, "Would you like a Pizza or a Kebab?" This is quite common parlance in this area and I just wondered why there was a difference. Maybe it is because the Indian and Chinese Takeaways have such a wide range of different dishes but the other types of takeaways tend to have a narrower range.

volver Thu 12-May-22 15:41:43

MissAdventure

I used to get called a sassenach when I was up in the highlands, in a jokey way.
Perhaps it isn't something to joke about, but I wouldn't know.
Is it something to do with people from the lowlands or something?

Sassenach is just the Gaelic word for English person, lowlander etc. Its from the same root as "Saxon". I never hear anyone use it now - except Marydoll, of course. And you're right Marydoll I'd not want to get on your wrong side. wink

I just wondered if it was coming back into usage due to Outlander, and the Sassenachs (wink) think its derogatory.

MissAdventure Thu 12-May-22 15:07:06

Ahem! It is Down syndrome now, not Downs.