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Biscuitmuncher Wed 11-May-22 00:26:32

Was at a lovely Jewellery stall today. For sale was rather expensive gold stacking bangles. I asked how much are the slave bangles, well the man selling them said, " we don't call them that anymore" and my daughters with me were horrified. I feel like the worst person!

25Avalon Thu 12-May-22 12:11:02

What about Kraut, frog and dago?

Marydoll Thu 12-May-22 12:01:15

Parsley3

Chinkie is not an affectionate term and it is no longer in common use by people who know better eg. my children and their friends.

Thank you Parsley, for clarifying.

Parsley3 Thu 12-May-22 11:53:29

Chinkie is not an affectionate term and it is no longer in common use by people who know better eg. my children and their friends.

MissAdventure Thu 12-May-22 11:47:35

I was much the same about g****w*g.

I had no idea as a child that it was meant to represent people.

I just added it to the list of mythical beings that used to be in children's books.

StarDreamer Thu 12-May-22 11:46:47

I managed to post Well the ketter was from the Chief Statistician.

shock

Oh dear, I meant to write

Well the letter was from the Chief Statistician.

25Avalon Thu 12-May-22 11:45:10

Caleo

I thought 'chinkie' was an affectionate term for Chinese food shop. I'd not be offended if I had a Scottish food carry out and my shop was called the scotty.

What if the shop was called Jocks?

Marydoll Thu 12-May-22 11:44:08

Riverwalk

Marydoll

It is commonly used in Scotland, however, it is offensive!

Is it commonly thought an affectionate term?

Not in my experience.
When I was young it was never used affectionately, just a commonly used term for a Chinese takeaway.
However, over the years, people have realised that it is not an acceptable term.
Whenever we taught anti racism programmes, we stressed that these terms were no longer acceptable. However, as the parents and grandparents used it at home, it was very difficult to change that mindset.

StarDreamer Thu 12-May-22 11:40:39

Yammy wrote His slave shows it is his possession.

The parlance purports that the person is his possession.

Yet that situatiomn is only because of the power backed by violence and the threat of violence by the Roman state.

I wonder why people glorify the Roman Empire. To me, the Colosseum and Auschwitz are much the same.

Calendargirl Thu 12-May-22 11:40:18

Just thinking of the Cher song ‘Gipsies, Tramps and Thieves’.

Only ‘Thieves’ acceptable nowadays I suppose.

StarDreamer Thu 12-May-22 11:24:06

Callistemon21 wrote I don't think it would be the Chief Statistician himself who threatened people with fines.

Well the ketter was from the Chief Statistician.

Riverwalk Thu 12-May-22 11:19:33

Marydoll

It is commonly used in Scotland, however, it is offensive!

Is it commonly thought an affectionate term?

Yammy Thu 12-May-22 11:19:15

MissAdventure

I think 'his slave' paints more clearly the situation.
His slave; belonging to him. His possession.

I agree to say the enslaved person asks the question who is the enslaver and do they own the enslaved? His slave shows it is his possession.

Marydoll Thu 12-May-22 11:19:05

I meant to add that we had Chinese children in our school, neither they, nor their parents thought it was an affectionate thing to call them.

Marydoll Thu 12-May-22 11:12:19

It is commonly used in Scotland, however, it is offensive!

Caleo Thu 12-May-22 11:05:42

Not for people ! For Chinese food shops.

Riverwalk Thu 12-May-22 10:51:42

Caleo

I thought 'chinkie' was an affectionate term for Chinese food shop. I'd not be offended if I had a Scottish food carry out and my shop was called the scotty.

You thought chinkie was an affectionate term! shock

Is that word in common use in Scotland?

MissAdventure Thu 12-May-22 10:47:16

Yes, I was always intrigued by tales of gypsies as a child.
One poem I remembered bits of, my ex told me was a song, and he used to sing it for me. smile

CatsCatsCats Thu 12-May-22 10:44:29

Would I feel uncomfortable if I had a gypsy friend round?

I don't know as I don't have a gypsy friend (although I might not have called my cat that if I had a gypsy friend first).

I honestly don't associate the name with anything derogatory. In fact, I think it is romantic (I always used to dream of being a gypsy when I was a young girl). And then there's the beautiful Esmeralda in The Hunchback of Notre Dame.

How long will it be before that film is renamed, I wonder?

Callistemon21 Thu 12-May-22 10:42:03

StarDreamer

Cabbie21 wrote Some organisations ask questions about ethnicity for statistical purposes. Under GDPR it is special category information for which consent is needed, so answers have to be optional.

Yet the Chief Statistician threatened a £1000 fine if people did not answer the non-optional questions on the census form, of which a question about ethnicity was one question.

I don't think it would be the Chief Statistician himself who threatened people with fines.
Not sure about the present one but the previous one is a lovely man ?

MissAdventure Thu 12-May-22 10:36:28

CatsCatsCats

Oh dear, Miss Adventure, my poor cat! She's called Gypsy, and here's me thinking it's a beautiful name grin.

Would you feel uncomfortable if you had a gypsy friend round, though?

Just as an aside, I went for a cuppa with someone whose female staffy was called my exact name. smile

maddyone Thu 12-May-22 10:34:40

Anyone know why they’re called slave bangles then?

Caleo Thu 12-May-22 10:33:08

I thought 'chinkie' was an affectionate term for Chinese food shop. I'd not be offended if I had a Scottish food carry out and my shop was called the scotty.

CatsCatsCats Thu 12-May-22 10:32:59

Oh dear, Miss Adventure, my poor cat! She's called Gypsy, and here's me thinking it's a beautiful name grin.

MissAdventure Thu 12-May-22 10:26:29

I wouldn't use the term gypsy skirt, in case it may offend.
I don't think the word gypsy should never be uttered, though.

maddyone Thu 12-May-22 10:26:12

slave bangles
I’m afraid I’m ignorant here. Does the term slave bangles refer to the shackles worn by those people who were slaves?
As I said upthread, I call my bangles exactly that, bangles! I never heard of slave bangles before yesterday.