Got told off by everyone today

If we haven't to use words about objects that we now feel are wrong, how about Gypsy Skirts and blouses terms still used today.

volver wrote I didn't mean arguing in the sense of violently disagreeing, but you know what I mean...

Indeed.

This part of the forum is listed as Chat which gives the impression of peaceful friendly conversation while perhaps having a warm drink though perhaps a petition to GNHQ to sometimes have some threads in the Chat forum redesignated more appropriately to the tone of the discussion would et cetera et cetera

slave bangles
I’m afraid I’m ignorant here. Does the term slave bangles refer to the shackles worn by those people who were slaves?
As I said upthread, I call my bangles exactly that, bangles! I never heard of slave bangles before yesterday.

I wouldn't use the term gypsy skirt, in case it may offend.
I don't think the word gypsy should never be uttered, though.

Oh dear, Miss Adventure, my poor cat! She's called Gypsy, and here's me thinking it's a beautiful name .

I thought 'chinkie' was an affectionate term for Chinese food shop. I'd not be offended if I had a Scottish food carry out and my shop was called the scotty.

Anyone know why they’re called slave bangles then?

CatsCatsCats

Oh dear, Miss Adventure, my poor cat! She's called Gypsy, and here's me thinking it's a beautiful name .

Would you feel uncomfortable if you had a gypsy friend round, though?

Just as an aside, I went for a cuppa with someone whose female staffy was called my exact name.

StarDreamer

Cabbie21 wrote Some organisations ask questions about ethnicity for statistical purposes. Under GDPR it is special category information for which consent is needed, so answers have to be optional.

Yet the Chief Statistician threatened a £1000 fine if people did not answer the non-optional questions on the census form, of which a question about ethnicity was one question.

I don't think it would be the Chief Statistician himself who threatened people with fines.
Not sure about the present one but the previous one is a lovely man ?

Would I feel uncomfortable if I had a gypsy friend round?

I don't know as I don't have a gypsy friend (although I might not have called my cat that if I had a gypsy friend first).

I honestly don't associate the name with anything derogatory. In fact, I think it is romantic (I always used to dream of being a gypsy when I was a young girl). And then there's the beautiful Esmeralda in The Hunchback of Notre Dame.

How long will it be before that film is renamed, I wonder?

Yes, I was always intrigued by tales of gypsies as a child.
One poem I remembered bits of, my ex told me was a song, and he used to sing it for me.

Caleo

I thought 'chinkie' was an affectionate term for Chinese food shop. I'd not be offended if I had a Scottish food carry out and my shop was called the scotty.

You thought chinkie was an affectionate term!

Is that word in common use in Scotland?

Not for people ! For Chinese food shops.

It is commonly used in Scotland, however, it is offensive!

I meant to add that we had Chinese children in our school, neither they, nor their parents thought it was an affectionate thing to call them.

MissAdventure

I think 'his slave' paints more clearly the situation.
His slave; belonging to him. His possession.

I agree to say the enslaved person asks the question who is the enslaver and do they own the enslaved? His slave shows it is his possession.

Marydoll

It is commonly used in Scotland, however, it is offensive!

Is it commonly thought an affectionate term?

Callistemon21 wrote I don't think it would be the Chief Statistician himself who threatened people with fines.

Well the ketter was from the Chief Statistician.

Just thinking of the Cher song ‘Gipsies, Tramps and Thieves’.

Only ‘Thieves’ acceptable nowadays I suppose.

Yammy wrote His slave shows it is his possession.

The parlance purports that the person is his possession.

Yet that situatiomn is only because of the power backed by violence and the threat of violence by the Roman state.

I wonder why people glorify the Roman Empire. To me, the Colosseum and Auschwitz are much the same.

Riverwalk

Marydoll

It is commonly used in Scotland, however, it is offensive!

Is it commonly thought an affectionate term?

Not in my experience.
When I was young it was never used affectionately, just a commonly used term for a Chinese takeaway.
However, over the years, people have realised that it is not an acceptable term.
Whenever we taught anti racism programmes, we stressed that these terms were no longer acceptable. However, as the parents and grandparents used it at home, it was very difficult to change that mindset.

Caleo

I thought 'chinkie' was an affectionate term for Chinese food shop. I'd not be offended if I had a Scottish food carry out and my shop was called the scotty.

What if the shop was called Jocks?

I managed to post Well the ketter was from the Chief Statistician.



Oh dear, I meant to write

Well the letter was from the Chief Statistician.

I was much the same about g****w*g.

I had no idea as a child that it was meant to represent people.

I just added it to the list of mythical beings that used to be in children's books.

Chinkie is not an affectionate term and it is no longer in common use by people who know better eg. my children and their friends.