Meghan and harry

They came back and kept a low profile. They were not (as has been alleged many times on these threads) accompanied by a Netflix film crew or photographer. I have no doubt it's a great disappointment to some that they behaved so well.

They've been criticised for not releasing photo's of their children, and are now being condemned because they did.

Let's face it, Harry and Meghan are forever damned and will be regardless of what they now do, or don't do. They will never be forgiven, and unfortunately certain sections of the media will continue to focus on them whenever the opportunity arises - so they won't be forgotten either. And on the scale of 'things that matter'... they really don't, do they?

I even wonder if the Queen herself spends as much time thinking about them as some of us seem to do. She's had many ups and downs in her family during her long life - and appears to have weathered them. And she does have other things to think about.

NotSpaghetti

Glorianny

They came back and kept a low profile. They were not (as has been alleged many times on these threads) accompanied by a Netflix film crew or photographer. I have no doubt it's a great disappointment to some that they behaved so well.

I do wish people would realise that Meghan had a career and was involved in charitable work and work to help women and girls way before she met Harry.

It doesn't matter to me but they were accompanied by a photographer (as discussed in this thread).

No they weren't ! They invited Misan Harriman and his family to Lilibet's birthday party. He is a professional photographer, social activist and Chair of the Southbank Centre. He took photos of Lilibet and of both families. Like people do at birthday parties. www.misanharriman.com/#:~:text=Photographer%2C%20entrepreneur%20and%20social%20activist,cover%20of%20its%20September%20issue.

annsixty

Where do children pick up that awful nose thumbing thing?
It looks dreadful and I would not be happy if my C or GD did it.
The baby is beautiful.

That's the thing - he's only just 4 and someone must have shown him that; he didn't make it up himself!
An older sibling who's at school ?

Yah boo sucks!

Well you obviously know more than I do Glorianny - I only know what I've read about him - he is a "friend of the family" and went with them to the Invictus games and also took their pregnancy photos and also released the image of little Lili - I didn't know he was only with them in a personal capacity.
Apologies.

Hopefully you weren’t used as a prop for public entertainment when you were four. I feel bad for him. Nothing about these celebrations appeared to take into account that he is four.

Sadly this kind of family feud goes on in many families. Shame really, I’m all for talking things over and kiss and make up.

They did not receive the welcome they expected, and went off back to the US in the huff before the Platinum Jubilee celebrations were even over. I think their attitude while here has made matters worse with the rest of the family. Not what HM the Queen probably had in mind, but she tried.

Larsonsmum

They did not receive the welcome they expected, and went off back to the US in the huff before the Platinum Jubilee celebrations were even over. I think their attitude while here has made matters worse with the rest of the family. Not what HM the Queen probably had in mind, but she tried.

THAT'S ALL JUST MADE UP, EITHER IN YOUR HEAD OR IN THE PRESS.

Larsonsmum

They did not receive the welcome they expected, and went off back to the US in the huff before the Platinum Jubilee celebrations were even over. I think their attitude while here has made matters worse with the rest of the family. Not what HM the Queen probably had in mind, but she tried.

What makes people make up this sort of thing? Why do you enjoy thinking things like that?

Well said, "NotSpaghetti"

Larsonsmum

They did not receive the welcome they expected, and went off back to the US in the huff before the Platinum Jubilee celebrations were even over. I think their attitude while here has made matters worse with the rest of the family. Not what HM the Queen probably had in mind, but she tried.

Well, you are entitled to your very wrong thoughts.

I think Harry realised the enormity of their actions when he found himself seated far away from the RF in the church.

One cannot always have one's cake and eat it.

I do not think lip reading should be allowed, everybody is entitled to some privacy, even a cute 4 year old.

My rear end would have been very sore if I had carried on as Louis did but one is not allowed to smack one's children now.

I think Harry realised the enormity of their actions when he found himself seated far away from the RF in the church.

He was right there with his cousins, who the last time I looked were part of his family that he seems to get on with.

One probably doesn't give a toss where one was sitting as one was there to celebrate one's Grannie's jubilee

Larsonsmum

They did not receive the welcome they expected, and went off back to the US in the huff before the Platinum Jubilee celebrations were even over. I think their attitude while here has made matters worse with the rest of the family. Not what HM the Queen probably had in mind, but she tried.

????

Really? What was required of them?

Low profile? ✓
Stand back and be bit-part players? ✓
No camera crew? ✓
No photographs? ✓
No public statements? ✓
Left quietly with no fanfare? ✓

As far as I can see, they fulfilled requirements.

I'm pleased for QE. None of the ostracising and banning, as with the Duke and Duchess of Windsor which must have been very sad for the family. Which of course, QE will remember.

Hear, Hear!!

Larsonsmum

They did not receive the welcome they expected, and went off back to the US in the huff before the Platinum Jubilee celebrations were even over. I think their attitude while here has made matters worse with the rest of the family. Not what HM the Queen probably had in mind, but she tried.

Instead of spouting rubbish you need to check your facts. They went home to the US yesterday, the same day as everybody else from the Royal family no doubt returned to their normal lives.

Prince Louis is just 4, he was doing what must 4 year olds would do in that situation.
Thumbing the nose is a joke gesture
I thought we had moved on from he deserves a slap in the 21st Century.
He was included in his Great Granny’s celebrations as were other of her Great Grandchildren, which were also snapped larking around.

Did you see the video GG13?

It wasn't a joke gesture. He threw a tantrum and was very disrespectful to his mother. It was significantly more than "larking around".

When I was four, I'd have got my bum slapped for behaving like that in public. But then I would never have done it as I knew how to behave, even when I was four. Maybe they don't slap children now. But I hope they did something to let him know that his behaviour was unacceptable, whether you are a prince or a pauper.

I'm off to look for the video.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cL-aYdGMMM

The video.

I haven’t seen it but children should certainly be disciplined for doing what volver describes. There’s a fine line between being cute and being a brat and, in his position, an entitled one.

Maybe they don't slap children now

No, and quite rightly.

Since 7th November 2020 parental smacking has been a criminal offence in Scotland. The Children (Equal Protection from Assault) (Scotland) Bill was passed by the Scottish Parliament in October 2019
Physically punishing children is illegal in Wales.
We want to protect children and their rights, to give them the best start in life.

Perhaps it's allowed in England still. But would you expect Kate to have walloped Louis in public?
I'm quite sure she doesn't in private either.

When I was four, I'd have got my bum slapped for behaving like that in public.
I read awful stories on GN about posters who were hit as children. It's very sad.

I do wonder about the expectations required of, and the privileges given to, those three children. Riding in the carriage, only children on the balcony, front row centre at the performance. It really can't be good for them. They may have roles to play in the future but I can't see that exposing them as they were at the weekend does them anything except harm.

I did see the video volver I sympathise with any parent when a toddler is acting up and as this incident was on display to millions worldwide my sympathy is in abundance.

Unless anyone knows what was the cause, I do not feel qualified to judge others parenting skills, obviously some feel differently.

Callistemon21

^Maybe they don't slap children now^

No, and quite rightly.

Since 7th November 2020 parental smacking has been a criminal offence in Scotland. The Children (Equal Protection from Assault) (Scotland) Bill was passed by the Scottish Parliament in October 2019
Physically punishing children is illegal in Wales.
We want to protect children and their rights, to give them the best start in life.

Perhaps it's allowed in England still. But would you expect Kate to have walloped Louis in public?
I'm quite sure she doesn't in private either.

When I was four, I'd have got my bum slapped for behaving like that in public.
I read awful stories on GN about posters who were hit as children. It's very sad.

I've just posted elsewhere about people taking comments out of context.

Here we are again.

I won't rise to the "damaged old women of Gransnet" bait.

GrannyGravy13

I did see the video volver I sympathise with any parent when a toddler is acting up and as this incident was on display to millions worldwide my sympathy is in abundance.

Unless anyone knows what was the cause, I do not feel qualified to judge others parenting skills, obviously some feel differently.

Hmm I know I'm out of step with current thinking, but I think children should behave in public. I know (at least I think I know ) that we are meant to be understanding of the reasons that children do things. But no child gets to put their hand over their mother's mouth or make rude gestures towards her, not in my book.

No sympathy from me, I'm afraid.