Meghan and harry

As the thread has turned to H&M again I can't help thinking that they must have watched Louis and congratulated themselves that their children had been removed from such an unnatural and exploitative upbringing. I suspect Harry will have remembered when he and William were paraded before the public and the distress that caused.

Recollections may vary

A master stroke in under statement.

I should think the entire family fears what he will say next, Annie. After all, ‘his truth’ (and hers) may be what we would call downright lies. As HM said, recollections will probably vary.

Are his cousins friendly with him because they are fond of him
or fear of what he may say, truth or lies.

I agree. Something that must hang over her head because presumably he will have something nasty to say about her and/or Prince Philip.

Germanshepherdsmum

We know there will be a book which won’t be published until after the Queen has died, so you may depend that will contain some unpleasant allegations.

What an awful spiteful threat that is from Harry!

We know there will be a book which won’t be published until after the Queen has died, so you may depend that will contain some unpleasant allegations.

Would the anecdotes be true

I thought when I saw H & M smiling through the windows with the children and their low-key appearance at St. Pauls that their visit was the beginning of a charm offensive and a possible reconciliation.
I hope this proposed book disappears but if one is published, a warm witty collection of anecdotes about life in the royal family and especially the Queen, would, in my opinion, be a far better seller.

I'm confused by the mention of all this book business and its delays. Is it just to keep them relevant? Or is it because they haven't found enough substantial content?

lemsip

I predict another visit to Oprah coming soon!
then Harry's book will hit the shelves.

What can be said at another Oprah interview?

The Queen invited the Sussexes over for her Jubilee, no mention made of security issues which had been a sticking point in the past.

They came, watched Trooping the Colour with other non working members of the RF from a window, and one would imagine they ‘mingled’.

Attended the Service of Thanksgiving next day, own royal car transport, own little procession, seated second row amongst other non working royals.

Saturday Lilibet’s first birthday, privateish celebration at Windsor, some RF members attended, others were busy on engagements.

Didn’t attend the concert or the pageant, but it appears they saw the Queen and she saw her great grandchildren.

They went home.

As non working royals who have chosen to live (and work) overseas, all seems reasonable.

If and when the ‘tell all’ book comes out, it will be interesting as to how it all comes across.

I predict another visit to Oprah coming soon!
then Harry's book will hit the shelves.

I dont really understand what you mean molly. There are a range of strategies to use with children who hurt others, many of the children I work with do this at times, we put a range of strategies in place, none of which involve hitting them.

Some parents seem frightened of taking charge, perhaps they think their children won't like them if they do.
Children need to have boundaries.

Mllygo I have a lovely friend who had children about the same age as my older ones - her older one was a very naughty boy but, instead of disciplining him in any way by telling him off, she would ask him why he wanted to upset her and beg him to be kind. He just got worse.

Callistemon21 of course they don’t, any more than all the children of parents who used to smack were violent to each other. I’d hate to go back to the smacking era and I agree that it’s wrong. I’d just like a solution for those children who do seem to think it’s OK to hit each other or adults.

I don't think all non-smacking parents bring up children who smack them and others.
I've never noticed children doing that when they come out of school either.

As we're doing the school run tomorrow, I'll take more note.

Galaxy

The same reason they put things up their nose. Also not an activity that is usually modelled at home or school.

Not the same thing at all. Also usually, the pain and sometimes fright unwillingly inflicted whilst removing the offending object is sufficient to deter a child from doing that too often.
So what do you suggest as an effective solution for stopping children attacking each other and adults in ways that has not been modelled at home or at school, that avoids inflicting pain or fear on the offender?
I’d love to share the advice with staff and the parents. The victims would also benefit from such a solution.

The same reason they put things up their nose. Also not an activity that is usually modelled at home or school.

Whilst I don’t like smacking, I’m still waiting for all the non-smacking parents to explain why their young children rush out of school and smack or punch mum or dad or grandparents with no obvious deterrent offered apart from the occasional,”Don’t do that. It’s naughty. Or don’t do that, you know it hurts me.”
These are parents who assure me that they don’t smack, when I ask to speak to them about incidents in school?
If they don’t smack at home and we don’t smack in school, why do the children think it’s OK to smack each other, or adults?

It's also generally about loss of control. The parents arent calmly thinking I will teach them good manners by smacking them, they smack because they cant control their frustration.

Spanking, smacking , is hitting . A small child smacks his mother so the mother smacks the child to explain smacking is
wrong ? A child uses a swear word so the mother says -
don’t bloody swear, it’s wrong

I don’t see smacking as a good way to teach children about how to behave well.

It teaches children that, if Mum or Dad do it, then it's OK to hit someone

Whitewavemark2

Callistemon21

Glorianny

Reading this I can't help think how right H&M were to leave the RF and the UK. Bad enough that adults should be subjected to uninformed criticism but a small boy? No wonder they keep their children out of the public view.

Yes.

Actually, other threads got deleted, I think, which criticised the children.

Yes.

Yes indeed.
My mother was born in 1922, the oldest of 4 children. They were never smacked. I’m one of 3, we weren’t smacked, didn’t smack our own children, they don’t smack our grandchildren.
I don’t see smacking as a good way to teach children about how to behave well.
It doesn’t work. Look at the boys in school when I was there. The same group of boys regularly bring caned or slippered. It didn’t work and it’s barbaric.

I saw Kate responding to Louis and felt she was doing well, especially as she knew the subject would be in the msm and forums like this.

merlotgran

It would be a very short book in my case.

Chapter 1. Teach your child that some gestures are considered rude and shouldn’t be made in front of other people because they will think you are bad mannered.

THE END

Because you know at all times what little behavioural gems your child has picked up at school and you can predict exactly when they will deploy that particular bomb for the first time?

Of course Louis shouldn’t have behaved as he did - I wouldn’t have been best pleased myself - but I imagine he will by now know the extent of his crimes and it will follow him for the rest of his life, unlike for most children.