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I'm afraid I don't understand your input on these discussions, SD.
Your posts seem to distance yourself from the action. For example, you are using the words you people themselves.
Thus you convey the impression that you are not so much a participant as merely a detached advice-giver.
Well, as it is RhineMaidens it is clearly an all female trip, so I cannot be coming along, so I am just trying, as I started this thread, to be helpful with showing you options for your virtual journey.