Sick people in shops

LOUISA1523

maddyone

….I saw her almost every day, and my GD, thru Covid….."

I hope you only saw her from a large distance, and not in the house or garden, or even the street or park, because you were breaking the law if not. Households were not allowed to mix, indoors or outdoors. Mixing was illegal, even for a walk. Mixing was totally against the law through Covid.

OMG are you for real???? Who are you to tell me whats illegal and whats not ???? I saw her indoors everyday ...not thats it any of your business ?

Of course she's for real. It's everybody's business if you broke the law, which it sounds as though you did.

growstuff

*I'm NHS in the community and in our trust we don't wear masks anymore in clinics or when home visiting....we don't have to limit how many people are in a room....we don't have to distance from people.....and we are loving it*

In that case, I'm grateful I'm not one of your trust's patients. I currently have cancer and have had numerous hospital appointments over the last few weeks. Thankfully, the trust where I'm being treated is somewhat more responsible. Mask-wearing isn't compulsory in the hospital, but most people are continuing to wear them. I certainly wouldn't allow any member of staff without one to examine me.

And I'm sure any health professional would respect that....I wouldn't have any problem wearing aadk if asked

Mask

growstuff

*I'm NHS in the community and in our trust we don't wear masks anymore in clinics or when home visiting....we don't have to limit how many people are in a room....we don't have to distance from people.....and we are loving it*

In that case, I'm grateful I'm not one of your trust's patients. I currently have cancer and have had numerous hospital appointments over the last few weeks. Thankfully, the trust where I'm being treated is somewhat more responsible. Mask-wearing isn't compulsory in the hospital, but most people are continuing to wear them. I certainly wouldn't allow any member of staff without one to examine me.

growstuff, I'm with you on this. I'm quite shocked at reading about your trust, Louisa.
I have had experience of both hospital and GP visits in the last few weeks and every single member of staff was masked.

I was considered so vulnerable during lockdown that the district nurse wasn't allowed in to do my bloods and instead of having monthly infusions in hospital, I had to inject myself weekly with biologics.

Although mask wearing is no longer compulsory at the hospital I attend, patients have been informed that all staff will wear one if requested by the patient. So far, I've noticed that some receptionists behind screens aren't wearing them, but all clinical staff are continuing to wear them and most of the patients do too.

GROWSTUFF
So many assumptions on this thread
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So many people going in for the kill ?...
FYI I was having 10 months of cancer treatment myself at the time....including 5.5 months of chemo...my DD was my carer .... you need to concentrate on yourself and your own health.....all this negativity towards people you know nothing about is very unhealthy

LOUISA, that must have been so difficult for you. I hope you are making good progress.

A new neighbour phoned the police to say that I had strangers in my home during Lockdown. It was actually my DD, who was my designated carer and was delivering my medication.
The policemen were horrified, when they found out how ill I was.
We never really know, what is going on in other's lives.

What a load of rubbish!

The onus should not be on patients to request that they be kept safe in a clinical setting.

Believe me, I'm very much focussed on my own health, which is why it concerns me so much that anybody working in an NHS setting should be so irresponsible and "be loving" the "freedom" of not having to wear a mask and gaslighting anybody who disagrees with you.

However, if I was receiving a home visit, by an NHS worker, I would be requesting that they wear a mask in my home, especially if they have been visiting other patients before me.
I cannot fathom out, why masks aren't worn, when dealing with vulnerable people.
I am severely immunocompromised and I expect to be able to trust those people, who are treating me.

I'm doing good now thank you...but they were very difficult days....every chemo session on my own....being given my diagnosis on my own.....being in hospital for surgery on my own....but it was exactly the same for many many others...so I put my big girl pants on and got on with it...my DD made meals...did washing...cleaning....picked up shopping and provided emotional strength...she was a godsend...... i don't know whats wrong with some....they just want to see the bad in people...

Me...I live and let live ?‍♀️

Marydoll

However, if I was receiving a home visit, by an NHS worker, I would be requesting that they wear a mask in my home, especially if they have been visiting other patients before me.
I cannot fathom out, why masks aren't worn, when dealing with vulnerable people.
I am severely immunocompromised and I expect to be able to trust those people, who are treating me.

Because I work in a community trust and the majority of people I see are less vulnerable than I am .....but if its a patients preference thats fine

I understand the being alone bit. I had another heart attack during lockdown and they couldn't find a bed in a Covid free ward for me. I have never felt so lonely in my life.
DH waved me off in the ambulance and I never saw him until I got back home again. At least I got back home, thanks to the wonderful staff.

It's an emotive subject and for some, I think it is hard to understand and empathise, when they haven't experienced this kind of situation. It doesn't make them bad people.

growstuff

What a load of rubbish!

The onus should not be on patients to request that they be kept safe in a clinical setting.

Believe me, I'm very much focussed on my own health, which is why it concerns me so much that anybody working in an NHS setting should be so irresponsible and "be loving" the "freedom" of not having to wear a mask and gaslighting anybody who disagrees with you.

Like I said I don't work with vulnerable people ....uts actually detrimental to my job role to be wearing a mask .....so we don't anymore ....and I do much much prefer it ..... does that make me a bad person?? I think not

LOUISA
I dare tell you because it’s a fact. You admit to seeing your daughter nearly every day in your house during the Covid lockdown. I dare tell you because you were breaking the law nearly every day. If you don’t like it I’m afraid it’s tough. You broke the law regularly. That is a fact by your own admission.

Marydoll

I understand the being alone bit. I had another heart attack during lockdown and they couldn't find a bed in a Covid free ward for me. I have never felt so lonely in my life.
DH waved me off in the ambulance and I never saw him until I got back home again. At least I got back home, thanks to the wonderful staff.

It's an emotive subject and for some, I think it is hard to understand and empathise, when they haven't experienced this kind of situation. It doesn't make them bad people.

That sounds like a really crappy time for you and your DH....at least I was only an inpatient for a few days .... they were hard days for many of us

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Did anyone ask if he was OK ?

maddyone you appear to have missed LOUISA'S post @ 8.33 this morning. That must have been a very difficult and frightening time LOUISA .

For you too, and your DH Marydoll .

If you had seen me in the supermarket last week you would have run a mile! I was sneezing, snuffling and coughing with red, runny eyes. All caused by hayfever and no I won’t stay at home because of that.

maddyone

LOUISA
I dare tell you because it’s a fact. You admit to seeing your daughter nearly every day in your house during the Covid lockdown. I dare tell you because you were breaking the law nearly every day. If you don’t like it I’m afraid it’s tough. You broke the law regularly. That is a fact by your own admission.

MY post to you got deleted which is quite ironic seeing as its your post which was the offensive one ?....anyway I hope if you are ever unlucky enough to have cancer 3 times that you will find people do not judge you for your decisions and make accusations about situations they know nothing about ... I don't bear grudges...life is too short...so I will move on

I am not in the UK at the moment. Masks are mandatory on public transport here, no mask no entry.
Several people are coughing around me, I dont know their circumstances,so do not judge. I know as soon as I get of the bus, I will take the mask off as it can make me feel I'll.
I think we should always remember people can have hidden disabilities and a side effect is coughing.

Reading some of the posts on this thread I think one of the worst aspects of COVID is how it has made people so fearful and judgemental of each other. Quick to point the finger at ‘rule breakers’ without knowing circumstances, rushing out of shops despite being triple jabbed and masked up, and thinking any poor soul with a cough is ‘Typhoid Mary’ - we need to let go a little now.

Smileless2012

maddyone you appear to have missed LOUISA'S post @ 8.33 this morning. That must have been a very difficult and frightening time LOUISA .

For you too, and your DH Marydoll .

Thank you Smileless
I didn't post on here for sympathy although I appreciate your comment....but I really don't think its selfish for people to want to get back to normal.....I completely get that, regardless of my own vulnerability....I don't wear masks ...if i had symptoms ofcovid i wouldn't go out...that is my choice and I always respect the choices of others....I work with vulnerable families where there are DV, abuse, alcohol / drugs misses issues....I needto build relationships with these families and mask wearing is not conducive to this....its far easier to engage with young children without mask...and yet I have posters on here who appear to think that because I am an NHS nurse that I am irresponsible for not wearing a mask anymore ( as per my trusts protocol)and enjoying the freedom that brings me....I apologise for that...anyway I've had a lovely day out with my 3 little GDs and I won't let these negative posts today spoil my day

That should read...I WONT apologise for that !

It's not selfish to want to "get back to normal" (who doesn't?) but it's not going to happen any time soon. Pretending the virus has gone won't make it disappear.