Another bastion bites the dust?

Casdon

volver we need your headbanger.

Ta da!!!

Page 2 on a thread about misogyny, and Male violence and we are spending time trying to make sure mens feelings arent hurt.

volver we need your headbanger.

StarDreamer

ixion

Then there is an assumption on the man's part that the woman will not understand without his help.

As here
- particularly if the woman to whom the explanation is ^being presented already knows the information that is being presented to her, even if the man is unaware of that prior knowledge and is trying to be helpful^

Not necessarily, it depends upon the circumstances.

He explaining something to her does not necessarily mean that she will not understand without his help, it could be that she has no way of knowing in a reasonable timescale unless he explains it to her.

The problem is the assumption.

it could be that she has no way of knowing in a reasonable timescale unless he explains it to her.

It could be that she wrote the actual software and it didn't cross his mind that this could be the case, so he carried on regardless.

Kate1949

I've no idea what mansplaining is.

It’s explaining (generally unnecessarily ) in a patronising way.
You certainly recognise it as a woman, when you are on the receiving end.

Galaxy

The other day DH explained to me the term which refers to the body movements children with autism can sometimes present with. I have managed childrens services for those with additional needs for years.

What is the term please?

ixion

Then there is an assumption on the man's part that the woman will not understand without his help.

As here
- particularly if the woman to whom the explanation is ^being presented already knows the information that is being presented to her, even if the man is unaware of that prior knowledge and is trying to be helpful^

Not necessarily, it depends upon the circumstances.

He explaining something to her does not necessarily mean that she will not understand without his help, it could be that she has no way of knowing in a reasonable timescale unless he explains it to her.

Knittingnovice

Girls outperform boys at school due to changes in education. Qualifications were purely exam based, now they are mainly coursework based.

What ??!

The other day DH explained to me the term which refers to the body movements children with autism can sometimes present with. I have managed childrens services for those with additional needs for years.

Then there is an assumption on the man's part that the woman will not understand without his help.

As here
- particularly if the woman to whom the explanation is being presented already knows the information that is being presented to her, even if the man is unaware of that prior knowledge and is trying to be helpful

I'd worked in the company for 10 years. Him, about 6 months. My job included writing and designing financial models. The question "Are you familiar with this software?" would have been polite and wouldn't have killed him. You might have thought that me continually saying, "yes I know that, I wrote it" would have been a clue, but no.

Mansplaining.

volver

A financial officer at work once explained to me how a piece of software worked and how it did the analysis. I hadn't asked for that information.

I'd written the software.

That's mansplaining.

Surely, not necessarily, if he did not know thar and if he was trying to be helpful to you.

Or in simple terms - mansplaining is treating the woman he’s telling something to as an airhead who can’t grasp a normal explanation. It’s very annoying.

A financial officer at work once explained to me how a piece of software worked and how it did the analysis. I hadn't asked for that information.

I'd written the software.

That's mansplaining.

Apparently an activity needs two components to both be present for the activity to be designated as mansplaining.

Firstly, a man is explaining something to a woman.

Secondly, the man must be acting towards the woman as if she is inferior to him.

Alas, it has been known that if a man explains something to a woman that some women, not necessarily the woman to whom something is being explained, will sometimes deem the actiivity to be mansplaining even if only the first condition applies, and particularly if the woman to whom the explanation is being presented already knows the information that is being presented to her, even if the man is unaware of that prior knowledge and is trying to be helpful.

I've no idea what mansplaining is.

Is the increase in domestic violence not based on the recent lockdown figures?

The football coach was well out of order. It's his job to make the game inclusive, not excuse bad behaviour.

I feel sorry for men these days. Whilst I support equality completely but I can't help feeling, in some parts of life, it's gone too far in the other direction. Sometimes men can't do right for doing wrong. Even simple gestures that were seen as good manners when I was growing up, such as holding doors open, are now seen as insulting by some.

Parsley3

My granddaughter had to leave a football camp last week. She plays for a girls team and was hoping to improve her skills. . She was the only girl there and the boys refused to pass the ball to her so she was understandably upset. When questioned about this, the organiser said that that was what boys tend to do. I would have asked him why he wasn't challenging such sexist behaviour. Fortunately, my granddaughter is made of sterner stuff and it hasn't put her off the game.

This is awful behaviour and I hope the camp had been called out about it?

FarNorth

Kate1949

I feel rather sorry for men these days. My lovely nephew was told by a female colleague during a discussion 'As a white heterosexual male, your opinion is irrelevant.'

Perhaps he was 'mansplaining'.

Just as much it appears that some women complain, moan and whinge about men?

Knittingnovice

Girls outperform boys at school due to changes in education. Qualifications were purely exam based, now they are mainly coursework based.

Not strictly true. Changes to the proportion of coursework or modules in relation to final exams in GCSEs were introduced in 2019.
What has changed though, is that girls are no longer “dominated” by boys in the subjects formerly seen as “hard” - maths, physics, chemistry , economics etc where as recently as 25 years ago the majority of teachers of these subjects in mixed schools were men. Single sex education at least gave girls female role models in women teachers.
There is no biological reason why girls should not achieve equally well in final exam based courses or boys where there is coursework . I have experience of both doing both. The big difference I saw in secondary schools was the belief on the part of the girls that they could aim high.

Men and women are totally different,mens strenth ,but womens mental strenth i feel is a whole lot stronger.
But at the end of the day,we compliment each other.

Watching the lionesses now Brilliant! I agree women are finding a place in society they never had before and men can't cope with it.

My granddaughter had to leave a football camp last week. She plays for a girls team and was hoping to improve her skills. . She was the only girl there and the boys refused to pass the ball to her so she was understandably upset. When questioned about this, the organiser said that that was what boys tend to do. I would have asked him why he wasn't challenging such sexist behaviour. Fortunately, my granddaughter is made of sterner stuff and it hasn't put her off the game.