Duchess of Sussex the bullying has to stop.

She knew she would be on the fall magazine release.

I have no idea when she died, until it's upon us, in the news
Perhaps because she wasn't your world-famous mother-in-law, Norah.

I'm beginning to feel rather sorry for Meghan.

but the timing is not down to MM. The media will use their interviews at a time that is right for them because it will sell more copy.

It seems as if she thinks she is using the media to her advantage but in fact the media is using her and perhaps she doesn't realise the negative impact it is having.

Isnt that too often the case?
Katie Price, Brittney Spears, Diana...

Exactly Callistemon21 and Missadventure.

It does not go unnoticed for me that all those people you mentioned are women Missadventure. I will say that threads such as this are exactly what her podcast is talking about. How women are treated and the labels they are given.

It really is a wonderful podcast and I recommend it. If it were say, Michelle Obama, instead of Meghan people would be shouting from the rooftops at what a wonderful thing she is doing to advance women's issues and feminism.

Also, there is no bad press in Hollywood. Even negative press makes her money. So honestly, these types of threads play right into her hands. People will listen to her podcast just because someone is saying bad things about her to see if those complaining are correct. They are reading the articles, buying the magazines and papers BECAUSE of the negative press.

Smart woman IMO.

You want her to go away? Stop talking about her. Bothers you so much? Turn it off. Close the article, turn off the TV.

For me, at the end of the day I participate because I enjoy lively debate. When I turn it off, I go about my measly non-PR salaried life.

I must say, I have no interest in Meghan other than the effect she seems to have on people, and I'm interested in how ordinary people can get so involved in protecting the queen.
It's intriguing to watch people, from a neutral stance, because I don't care enough one way or the other.

Imaround
If it were,say, Michelle Obama etc.
Maybe that’s because Michelle is real unlike Meghan who’s as false as a 9 Bob note.
I don’t ever recall Michelle telling such porkies to a global audience.

Watching Nelson Mandelas grandson being interviewed Re that lie
He said there was only one event that could be likened to his release from prison and that was the abolition of slavery.
Not quiet in the same league as Meghan marrying a prince but a girls got to try, hasn’t she? Although it’s backfired spectacularly.

Thanks!

You want her to go away? Stop talking about her. Bothers you so much? Turn it off. Close the article, turn off the TV.

In other words, like it or lump it?
No can do, I’m afraid.

Just because the Royal Family adopt a, Never complain, never explain approach, it doesn’t mean Meghan won’t be called out on her more ridiculous pronouncements and constant digs at people she doubts will hit back.

Go ahead and complain away, it makes no difference to me. I am sure she is laughing all the way to the bank when you do.

I think I have read it all now on this thread! How can anyone compare Meghan Markle to Michelle Obama!!!They are absolute opposites!! Clearly the poster defending Meghan knows little about Michelle.

I do believe Meghan tried to ingratiate herself with Michelle.....she got nowhere.What a surprise.

If it were say, Michelle Obama, instead of Meghan people would be shouting from the rooftops at what a wonderful thing she is doing to advance women's issues and feminism.

I don't think Michelle Obama would ever discuss her husband's family in the negative way that Meghan has Harry's.
Michelle Obama is smart, very intelligent and dignified. And I would think she's a very kind woman too.

I am sure she is laughing all the way to the bank when you do.

For now.

Callistemon21

^If it were say, Michelle Obama, instead of Meghan people would be shouting from the rooftops at what a wonderful thing she is doing to advance women's issues and feminism^.

I don't think Michelle Obama would ever discuss her husband's family in the negative way that Meghan has Harry's.
Michelle Obama is smart, very intelligent and dignified. And I would think she's a very kind woman too.

And wasn’t her advice to Meghan to ‘watch and learn’ for the first year?

That must have gone down well!

It really is a wonderful podcast and I recommend it

I think, having listened to her other interviews and pronouncements, she's proved so far that she has nothing important to say other than air her perceived grievances. If now, she thinks people might be interested in her new thoughts about the world, it's rather too late, she's cooked her goose, shot herself in the foot etc, whatever metaphor anyone might like to choose.

If only she'd kept ? up until the time she had something profound to say about the place women in the world in general instead of trying to destroy her in-laws, more people might be interested.

merlotgran

^I am sure she is laughing all the way to the bank when you do.^

For now.

Is that the most important thing then?
Money?

I did NOT compare her to Michelle Obama. I said IF Michelle Obama said it you would laud it. I know quite a bit about Michelle Obama since, I am an American and well, I can read and I vote. You all really do see only what you want to see don't you.

Money is important when you have a mortgage. So which is it? She and Harry earn their own living or they live off the UK Taxpayer dollar.

Looks like her podcast is going to be #1 again on Spotify this week, so it doesn't really matter if you don't listen Callistmon21. Your loss.

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Aren't you a peach?

I have been a member of this forum for 3 years. There are posters from all over the world on GN, including the USA.

I do understand basic English and no, it was not a comparison. Do not put words in ny mouth.

I am not a member of Meghans PR team (or Oprah's sadly), nor do I work with or for Omid Scobie.

Luckily for me, I do not care if you think I am making a fool of myself. I have the same opinion of you right now just based on you telling me to leave because I am an American and can't understand basic English, despite the fact that I am communicating with you in basic English.

I am sorry you are triggered by my provable facts.

heath480

So delighted that you are American and listen to the news,three cheers for you.Perhaps stick to American forums,you are making a complete fool of yourself here.

You actually were comparing Meghan Markle to Michelle Obama,re read what you wrote,do you understand basic English?

Hilarious that you continue to defend the indefensible.Nelson Mandela’s grandson has been interviewed today on GB News,confirming Meghan’s lies.It all she is capable of,lie after lie,after lie.

You appear to have just joined Gransnet to comment on this thread,do you work for Omid Scobie?

This comment has everything

All the insults

All the misinformation

All the gate keeping

All the othering

Brava

Oh and you misquoted me. I said I read. I never said I listen to the news. The news in the US can not always been trusted. So I search out unbiased facts about a variety of topics. You know, fake news and all.

And in case anyone else wants to put words into my mouth. To recap I have said that:

I could care less about Meghan, I do not know her personally

I do not work for Meghan, Oprah or Omid Scobie

I think that Meghan is her own worst enemy and she does say things that are not true.

I also believe that some of what is reported about her is false and will prove those things wrong when I can. Because I can.

I like her podcast, but not because it is her podcast. Because the discussion needs to be had about women, especially black women. I also like that she and Harry rescued chickens because I also rescue chickens. Doesn't mean I am her best friend.

I think it is sad that her podcast will not reach as many listeners because she is NOT Michelle Obama. Again, the conversation is an important one for women all around the world.

I am not a black woman. I am a white woman whose ancestry comes 90+% from Ireland, Scotland and England and am an American citizen. Not that that should matter, but I have a feeling it does to someone out there. I have never had anyone here claim otherwise, I am just heading that off at the pass just in case.

I get to have an opinion that is different than everyone else's and I get to state that opinion and be part of the conversation.

After this thread is gone, I will post on other threads and agree with the same people that I disagreed with on this thread. That is what being able to have a mature conversation and a difference of opinion is all about.

I still want cake.

imaround Fri 02-Sep-22 01:34:06
Aren't you a peach?

I have been a member of this forum for 3 years. There are posters from all over the world on GN, including the USA.

I do understand basic English and no, it was not a comparison. Do not put words in ny mouth.

I am not a member of Meghans PR team (or Oprah's sadly), nor do I work with or for Omid Scobie.

Luckily for me, I do not care if you think I am making a fool of myself. I have the same opinion of you right now just based on you telling me to leave because I am an American and can't understand basic English, despite the fact that I am communicating with you in basic English.

I am sorry you are triggered by my provable facts.
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imaround you're sounding upset & hurt - don't be either.

I stopped commenting on granset because of certain holier-than-thou/I'm-always-right/my-opinion-is-the-only-one-that-counts posters some time ago, and only started again very recently. Now I think, "well fuck them, they're clearly arrogant, unpleasant old biddies so what they say is irrelevant", and it's rather nicely freeing.

For what it's worth, I can't understand all the hostile beliefs and views of Meghan Markle. It seems to me the MSM decided at the outset that the theme was to be anti-Meghan and anything she does is turned around until they can find some negative swing.

They don't whack on about HM the same way, do they? For example, how many media outlets made headline news of this outrageous example ..."The Queen has had her tax bill slashed by thousands of pounds for three Scottish shooting estates including Balmoral after making a successful appeal, The National can reveal.

In a controversial move, the new rateable value (RV) for deer stalking at Her Majesty’s largest property in Aberdeenshire – Balmoral Castle – is now lower than that of many pubs, shops and restaurants in the area – some of which may be struggling amid the pandemic."

In fact, now I think about it - wtf is all the interest in these total strangers lives all about?

Thanks Posh. I do actually live my life in the way you described. I do not care what other people think and at the end of the day, another persons opinion of anyone, including me, is none of my business.

I engaged in this thread because, like I said, I enjoy lively discussion sometimes. There have been many other H & M threads that I choose not to engage in. I know that no matter what I say, I am not going to change anyone else's mind, nor them mine.

I commit myself to disagreeing without being rude or condescending. If someone else makes the choice, well it says more about them than it does me.

So, I am all good. We have a long holiday weekend this weekend in the US and I have many adventures planned with my husband. So this thread can continue on without me and by the time I am back, I am sure there will be other topics we can all disagree on.

I am definitely going to finally get my mini bundt cake tomorrow though. Didn't want the calories, but I am walking in an additional 5K this weekend so I am going to splurge.

Well it is good to have an American perspective here. We don’t hear a lot about Meghan here in Australia and most wouldn’t care much, anyway. I think in general, however, the view is not too positive but then we only hear what the papers and media choose to tell us. I don’t like the whole idea of the RF, personally, I think they should disappear in a puff of smoke and the French had it right all those years ago. That’s clearly a minority opinion here, though.