Duchess of Sussex the bullying has to stop.

Callistemon21 how you can repost notspahettis cmment and then ask "Has anyone said this" I don't know. What else is "sit it out a while" other than saying conform and don't be yourself?

Michelle Obama's advice.

No-one said 'Don't be yourself'
However, observing how everything works in a new organisation is a good idea. Saying you're going to go in and 'hit the ground running' then try to change things in any new firm or organisation is not a good idea, even if you go in as CEO.

And, btw, Meghan did have a very good induction but we don't hear much about that.

JaneJudge

I'm married so I am using someone else's name as well then but before that I was using my Dad's so

Not everyone does, though

She's a black woman earning her own living and trying to raise her children free from the restrictions of the outdated, inbred, family she married into and I think that takes guts.

It would be admirable if she earned her own living without using that family to make an income!!

Guts? Really??

Callistemon21

merlotgran

They’re not being bullied. People are entitled to make negative comments about the podcast if they want to.

I haven’t listened to it because I can’t think of anything worse than nearly an hour of Meghan talking about herself ?

I thought the OP meant that Meghan and Harry were going to stop bullying the Royal Family with their innuendos and underhand accusations.

Silly me! Now I've read the thread I am enlightened.
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I'll reiterate my first post.

I thought the OP meant that Meghan and Harry were going to stop bullying the Royal Family with their innuendos and underhand accusations.

Just move on, the pair of you.
Don't keep airing past grievances and telling whoppers to make a living. It's not the way to earn respect.

Surely the best way to use her husband's family would be to pose prettily, toe the line, conform to the usual ways of the family?
What motivates her to move away from doing that?

I dont think it's in her personality to toe the line MissAdventure.

Seems some admire Megan who lies, betrays, blackmails

This is being a strong woman !

You don't have to admire Meghan to think that there is bullying going on. Fair comment when she does something wrong but criticising for everything she does from the picture she has posed for to the fact she dares to criticise the monarchy?

Whose ever suggested that MissA?

They left their role in the RF presumably so neither of them would have to 'toe the line'. There's nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is what Anniebach has referred too; the lies, betrayal and blackmail,

I for one see nothing admirable about that and certainly don't see how that's an example of a strong, independent woman and one who will be a good example to anyone.

I wouldn't mind her criticising the monarchy if she actually told the truth !!

And I wouldn't mind her preaching (and Harry's) if they weren't such hypocrites.

I agree Sparklefizz.

It was my own original thought, smileless

She is gaslighting him and she feeds off attention.

Thanks for the clarification .

Regarding names, you don't have to use someone else's name if you don't want too.
I have two friends who chose their own surnames one became "Freeman" and another took a name after a river.

We all choose to "take" "reject" or "accept" names.
Some use different names in different places. I used my father's surname (maiden name) for my degrees for example, and for 15 or so years in the workplace.

I have just finished reading "Revenge" by Tom Bower, about Meghan, Harry and the Windsors.

Before anyone leaps in to judge, the book is very informative and balanced. When Tom Bower was interviewed on the radio, he pointed out that every single thing mentioned in his book had been extremely thoroughly checked because obviously Harry & Meghan are very litigious and he didn't want lawsuits.

There are 882 references throughout the book regarding facts and sources which are listed in 21 pages of Endnotes. The author doesn't give his own opinions but states facts.

I got the book out of the library as I wasn't going to pay £22 for it. It explains a great deal about Meghan's childhood, her father and family, the Royal Family and her trajectory from hardly known actress to her current position.

It is so funny. One black woman making podcasts is accused of undermining a family which owns not only substantial amounts of real estate, exerts influence on the media and communications, not to mention the UK government, and keeps some very dark secrets, but also has huge amounts of cash. Really! Perhaps it's time some of that was undermined.

I doubt if Michelle Obama has any idea what life is like in the RF. Perhaps she would have given different advice if she had. But quoting her and agreeing with her still means "keep your mouth shut and just put up with things.".

She's using her life experiences Callistemon21 they happen to include the RF.

NotSpaghetti

Regarding names, you don't have to use someone else's name if you don't want too.
I have two friends who chose their own surnames one became "Freeman" and another took a name after a river.

We all choose to "take" "reject" or "accept" names.
Some use different names in different places. I used my father's surname (maiden name) for my degrees for example, and for 15 or so years in the workplace.

Fair enough so why castigate one woman for choosing something different?
As I said my married name was linked with my profession so you could construe that I made money out of that. It's still the name I use so I am still making money out of it, every time I get paid for something (which isn't often now I admit)

She's not just using her life experiences, she's lying Glorianny. You are not being paid to give interviews because the family you married into are known throughout the world, and whenever you do talk about them, it's to 'dish the dirt' which so far has boiled down too unsubstantiated claims and accusations.

Like you Sparklefizz,I have just finished the ‘Revenge’ book, also from the library.

I agree, it was informative, balanced and just came across as very true.

I hope she really does love Harry, and he wasn’t just a means to an end, i.e. wanting a rich, famous husband, ready to have a family with him, and probably most important, a platform for her own ambitions in life.

I hope so too Calendargirl.

Glorianny - I made no comments about Meghan and surnames. I was just elaborating on the choices we have regarding the names we use.

Sorry if I have muddied waters somehow.

I hope she really does love Harry, and he wasn’t just a means to an end, i.e. wanting a rich, famous husband, ready to have a family with him, and probably most important, a platform for her own ambitions in life.

I hope so too, but I wouldn't bank on it.

The book reminded me of various lies and hypocrisies in the past which I had forgotten because new ones had taken precedence. Frankly I think H & M bring out the worst in each other but I can understand how they each needed what the other could give - he could give money, fame and status, and she could mother him and support him in leaving the RF. I just wish they hadn't trashed absolutely everyone along the way.

This thread still going! Amazing. Obviously a lot of interest from us all.

Callistemon21

merlotgran

I am sure she is laughing all the way to the bank when you do.

For now.

Is that the most important thing then?
Money?

I came across this for the first time yesterday. Kurt Vonnegut's obituary for Joseph Heller. It seems apt.

Joseph Heller, an important and funny writer, now dead, and I were at a party given by a billionaire on Shelter Island. I said, “Joe, how does it make you feel to know that our host only yesterday may have made more money than your novel ‘Catch-22’ has earned in its entire history?” And Joe said, “I’ve got something he can never have.” And I said, “What on earth could that be, Joe?” And Joe said, “The knowledge that I’ve got enough.”