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ginny Thu 08-Sept-22 23:21:28

This weekend thousands of people were due to hike a marathon along the Jurassic path for MacMillan.

It has been cancelled due to todays sad news.

These people have given their time to train and find sponsors.
Many will be out of pocket having paid for transport and accommodation.
Thousands of pounds will now not be raised for people with cancer.

What good does this do anyone ?
Is it what the Queen would have wanted ?
In my opinion , a bad decision by MacMillan.

nadateturbe Fri 09-Sept-22 11:03:41

I don't think it's a good idea to cancel things like Last Night of the Proms,.
People are feeling miserable enough at the minute with financial worries, NHS problems etc.
This was something cheerful to look forward to.
What a shame!

Rosalyn69 Fri 09-Sept-22 11:04:57

I think it is appropriate to mourn the Queen.

Lucca Fri 09-Sept-22 11:15:55

Well I may be thick but how is cancelling events “mourning the queen?? “

Smileless2012 Fri 09-Sept-22 11:19:52

Mourning is an expression of sorrow following someone's death, and those who have taken the decision to cancel events no doubt see that as an expression of sorrow.

Galaxy Fri 09-Sept-22 11:22:31

It isnt. My son is due to run the GNR after months of training, if it goes ahead he will stand respectfully in whatever silence they organise. If its cancelled we will all go for a meal and to the pub smile

LauraNorderr Fri 09-Sept-22 11:27:48

I’m a monarchist through and through. I do mourn the death of a wonderful, dedicated, hard working Queen the like of whom may never be seen again. I feel sad, I want to show my respect with quiet and private reflection as I’m sure many will, BUT I do feel that it is just plain daft to cancel events, especially charity fund raisers, how on earth is depriving charity of much needed funds in any way respectful.

25Avalon Fri 09-Sept-22 11:30:23

At least some organisations have made a decision unlike the English FA who are dithering - as ever. They couldn’t make a decision to cancel games for Covid until clubs took their own action and refused to play. Why is it so difficult them to make a decision following the Queen’s death which let’s face it this was not unpredicted with most large organisations with plans in place, except the FA. If it is a one off event like the McMillan run then they do have to decide on the day, and have very courageously done so.

Oldnproud Fri 09-Sept-22 11:32:13

I think people should be allowed, as far as is reasonable, to choose both how and whether they want to mourn the queen's death.
In my opinion, cancelling organised events takes away that choice.

Luckygirl3 Fri 09-Sept-22 11:37:08

Parsley3

Cancelling The Proms and other events is missing the opportunity to dedicate the performances/activities to a celebration of the late Queen's life. Should we stop posting on GN to give us time to pause and mourn?

I agree. The Proms in particular - a golden opportunity for the artistic community to come together and dedicate the performance to the queen - I cannot see any point in cancelling it, nor indeed anything else.

And it is particularly illogical to cancel charity fund-raisers.

Hithere Fri 09-Sept-22 13:04:10

There is a bunch of hypocrisy with this subject in general

The country and the world mourns the life of a privileged person who passed away at 96, who had opportunities that other mortals cannot think of and no real useful role in society
but
The loss and disruption of lives in wars, such like Ukraine, has 0 impact

Hithere Fri 09-Sept-22 13:06:08

Mourn, not mourns

Smileless2012 Fri 09-Sept-22 13:33:41

I'm sure that those who mourn her myself included, believe she had an extremely useful role in society Hithere and what makes you say The loss and disruption of lives in wars, such like Ukraine, has 0 impact? 0 impact on whom?

ginny Fri 09-Sept-22 17:34:47

For those who have accommodation booked,do it anyway.
Your not joined at the hip.
After the walk just send what monies if any to the charity.

Yes timetogo. 2016 some of the money probably will be sent to the charity . However the walkers have trained for a 26 mile hike. They will not feel it safe to do without some sort of safety/medical support. Nor will they have signs to tell them where they can and cannot walk.
They will feel that that must contact each sponsor as to walk less miles they will not be keeping their end of the bargain.
Add to all this they they may be out of pocket themselves and not want to just holiday.

Lucca Fri 09-Sept-22 19:02:49

Luckygirl3

Parsley3

Cancelling The Proms and other events is missing the opportunity to dedicate the performances/activities to a celebration of the late Queen's life. Should we stop posting on GN to give us time to pause and mourn?

I agree. The Proms in particular - a golden opportunity for the artistic community to come together and dedicate the performance to the queen - I cannot see any point in cancelling it, nor indeed anything else.

And it is particularly illogical to cancel charity fund-raisers.

Every single person I’ve talked to about this agrees. The events should have gone ahead with 2. Minute silences or a slight change t9 the programme to dedicate it to the queen or remember her. Don’t honestly think she’d have wanted this OTT. Reaction.

Farzanah Fri 09-Sept-22 20:19:49

I don’t know whether the Queen would have wanted things cancelled or not. Who can know?
Personally I think a lot of planning goes into so many events and don’t believe they should be cancelled. It’s possible to have a period of reflection and just decide to stay at home isn’t it? Not disrespectful to 5he Queen whatever you decide. Personal matter.

Callistemon21 Fri 09-Sept-22 20:55:47

I went to a fundraiser this morning.

I sure HM would not have wanted these cancellations to go ahead.

Callistemon21 Fri 09-Sept-22 20:57:28

DH went to a meeting last night. They had a silence and also a toast to the new King.
All Forces veterans. If anyone knows the right procedures, they do.

DaisyAnne Fri 09-Sept-22 21:23:55

Hithere

There is a bunch of hypocrisy with this subject in general

The country and the world mourns the life of a privileged person who passed away at 96, who had opportunities that other mortals cannot think of and no real useful role in society
but
The loss and disruption of lives in wars, such like Ukraine, has 0 impact

Are you saying Hithere, that you don't think the family, friends and all those who know people killed in wars, such as Ukraine, don't mourn the death of that person?

Or is this just another hate fest. I think your description of our Queen, a woman who has gone on working until working until she is 96, as "privileged" and having "opportunities that other mortals cannot think of" and "no real useful role in society" tells us all about where your comments come from.

Callistemon21 Fri 09-Sept-22 22:05:59

and no real useful role in society
?

Does that win the prize for daftest, crassest post of the day?

DaisyAnne Fri 09-Sept-22 22:11:27

Callistemon21

DH went to a meeting last night. They had a silence and also a toast to the new King.
All Forces veterans. If anyone knows the right procedures, they do.

The problem is there are no "right procedures". We moved from the days when you closed all the curtains, didn't have visitors and went into a sort of purdah, seeking seclusion or having it thrust upon you. This first short period was followed by a formal funeral, with all men removing their hats and everyone bowing their heads as the hearse passed. Later, you could return to wearing jewellery and transition into mauve or grey. Such rules once only applied to the aristocracy. In addition to bringing wealth to the country, the industrial revolution took 'rules' through the classes. All, including the working class, had expectations about how you showed respect in death.

Our lives have changed out of all recognition in all areas. However, in many, we retain the remnants of the past. We find it difficult to know what to let go of and when. We are being asked that some may show their respect in a way others don't use or haven't ever known. Why is it so hard to accept and let others do what feels important to them?

Lincolnshiresausage Fri 09-Sept-22 22:16:43

My elderly mum's monthly social / support group which she really looks forward too has been canceled 'out of respect for the Royal Family". Poor mum finding herself very lost after losing dad after a long marriage. These things matter and I'm sure the Queen would most definitely have understood the situation of a bunch of elderly widows.

Callistemon21 Fri 09-Sept-22 22:22:56

DaisyAnne my mother died many years ago but I upset an elderly relative (an in-law uncle) by saying how much my mother would have loved seeing all the family gathered together at the wake.

I do think the Forces have a special respect for the Monarchy and it was decided to go ahead with the meeting but with a silence and remembrance. I think they needed to be together too.

Callistemon21 Fri 09-Sept-22 22:24:57

This first short period was followed by a formal funeral, with all men removing their hats and everyone bowing their heads as the hearse passed

I find the clapping as a hearse passes very strange and it makes me feel uncomfortable.

DaisyAnne Fri 09-Sept-22 23:08:58

Callistemon21

DaisyAnne my mother died many years ago but I upset an elderly relative (an in-law uncle) by saying how much my mother would have loved seeing all the family gathered together at the wake.

I do think the Forces have a special respect for the Monarchy and it was decided to go ahead with the meeting but with a silence and remembrance. I think they needed to be together too.

I think 'upset' is easily and often caused at funerals.

It sounds as if the veterans your DH met up with were doing what was right for them. Making decisions in these circumstances is difficult. However, some people telling others who are grieving how they should behave has never been a good idea. People have very different views of what is appropriate. I would guess the only thing you can do with fund-raisers etc., is let the organisers make the decision. If you don't like the decision made people could offer to be an organiser in the future and actually have that responsibility as they clearly think they know what should be done.

DaisyAnne Fri 09-Sept-22 23:13:01

Callistemon21

^This first short period was followed by a formal funeral, with all men removing their hats and everyone bowing their heads as the hearse passed^

I find the clapping as a hearse passes very strange and it makes me feel uncomfortable.

I think all changes make someone feel uncomfortable. Perhaps it's happened because men no longer wear hats so were unable to give the "obvious" display of respect?