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Anyone still thinking of voting tory at the next General Election?

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MaizieD Wed 28-Sept-22 16:14:37

Just that, really.

I'm curious to know if crashing the economy has influenced anyone's thinking...

Hilly1 Fri 30-Sept-22 15:18:28

Don't panic. Don't believe everything in the media. Don't you want a reduction in tax? Don't you want help with your power bills? US interest rates higher than ours. Japan having to rescue their banks. Our debt to GDP second lowest in the G7. We are not in recession a lot of Eurozone is. Give it 6-12 months then make up your mind.

knspol Fri 30-Sept-22 15:19:24

Have always voted Tory but after Boris and then the current shambles I would not vote that way again.

kiligran Fri 30-Sept-22 15:20:09

I have voted Tory all my life. When the general election comes round ask me again. A lot can happen in the meantime. One thing is for sure I would never vote Labour

HousePlantQueen Fri 30-Sept-22 15:25:49

The comments about local MPs are interesting. In my case, I can't stand him, he is a very strong Brexiteer in a very safe seat so rather complacent, but even if he was charming, helpful and a 'great guy' he would still be part of the Tory administration, and by voting for this mythical great local MP, I would be supporting the rotten edifice. Pritti Patel is a nearby MP, and is reported to be a great, responsive constituency MP so do her constituents put local matters over national policy such as the vile Rwandan deal? Just an example, and please don't tell me she is no longer a member of the cabinet, but I give her as an example of the dilemma faced by the electorate. Local matters versus national good?

readalot Fri 30-Sept-22 15:32:36

No I wouldn't, I didn't vote for them last time. I'm just waiting for them to say they are suspending the triple lock again

Yammy Fri 30-Sept-22 15:32:41

GagaJo

I could (but won't, don't want a ban!) name GN members who will still vote Tory.

Why aggravate, how can you possibly know who will vote Tory?
I might have in the past and yet can sing "The red flag" from the way I was brought up, though I wouldn't think of giving the communist clenched fist salute as some did at the conference,
Can you forecast which way I will vote?

spottybook Fri 30-Sept-22 15:38:59

I’ll vote for any party if it keeps Labour out!

HousePlantQueen Fri 30-Sept-22 15:39:15

Gagajo is quite correct. Nobody needs to name the GN members, most were very keen to share their admiration for Johnson when he was in power. It doesn't take an expert to work it out surely?

GagaJo Fri 30-Sept-22 15:42:04

HousePlantQueen

Gagajo is quite correct. Nobody needs to name the GN members, most were very keen to share their admiration for Johnson when he was in power. It doesn't take an expert to work it out surely?

Thank you. I supported Corbyn. But the Johnson hysteria was something else altogether.

Anneeba Fri 30-Sept-22 15:48:07

Never have, never will. Would rather my goldfish were PM and Chancellor, at least they have to swim around in their own mess (until I clean them out, which, animal lovers, I do partially weekly and then hugely monthly ha!). If I had Truss and Kwarteng in a tank I'd leave it unchanged for decades.

Saetana Fri 30-Sept-22 15:58:07

Where I live is thoroughly red - the saying is people would vote for a dog turd if they stuck a red rosette on it. The only person who has a chance against our incumbent Labour MP is the Green candidate so I will be voting for her. I am a Conservative but its a completely wasted vote in my area of the city so I will vote tactically in the hope of getting Labour out of the seat. I always vote Green in council elections as we happen to have two excellent Green councillors in our area who really try and help constituents as much as they can.

Saetana Fri 30-Sept-22 16:01:29

Hilly1

Don't panic. Don't believe everything in the media. Don't you want a reduction in tax? Don't you want help with your power bills? US interest rates higher than ours. Japan having to rescue their banks. Our debt to GDP second lowest in the G7. We are not in recession a lot of Eurozone is. Give it 6-12 months then make up your mind.

Well said Hilly1 - the figures came out today for the last quarter and there was a small amount of growth so no recession here yet and people seem blinkered when it comes to acknowledging this crisis is a worldwide one. So much for the forecasts - they are almost always wrong. I think we should give Truss a chance - she has been PM for less than a month and there is two years until the likely next election. I will be interested to follow the party conference next week when I am sure more information about the government's plans for the next two years will surface.

Saggi Fri 30-Sept-22 16:11:55

These people are turning us into a third word nation…..I’m pensioner and after taking care of my husband for 27 of our 50 year marriage after his stroke …he’s now in a residential care home as my health has plummeted….. I have to pay toward his care (£900) per month ….after my bills are paid …I will have £40 per week to ‘live’ on! After 48 years of hard graft…. buying our own house and NEVER asking for a Penny benefit after my husbands stroke …but just working harder myself….I feel slightly let down!
Will I vote conservative ! I’d rather roast in hell!

volver Fri 30-Sept-22 16:14:43

Don't you want a reduction in tax?

Why on earth would any sane person want to pay less tax when 10% of the population are using foodbanks?

Oh yes, I remember. Selfishness.

Bijou Fri 30-Sept-22 16:16:22

I have never voted Conservative have voted Labour all my life but now they have gone towards the right I will vote for one of the lesser parties.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Sept-22 16:18:08

This weak has been disastrous for the Tories with the tax reduction for the wealthy, but it will be nothing compared to the reaction to the cuts in benefit and getting rid of the triple lock whilst continuing to cut tax.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 30-Sept-22 16:24:11

Let’s see what the November budget brings. No point worrying on the basis of speculation. Let’s wait for the facts.

Gman Fri 30-Sept-22 16:25:45

It does not matter who you vote for! The result will be the same. The Almighty Dollar determines everything in the global economy we are in. Red, Blue or Yellow are just symbols of a pretense that they have any sort of control. So cast your vote say a prayer and hold tight to the comfort blanket

volver Fri 30-Sept-22 16:25:46

Here's some facts.

kamikwasi.tax/

Fleurpepper Fri 30-Sept-22 16:32:40

Germanshepherdsmum

Let’s see what the November budget brings. No point worrying on the basis of speculation. Let’s wait for the facts.

Too late, too late, too bloody late!

janipans Fri 30-Sept-22 16:33:35

I think all parties should be banned from commenting on the others ideas and policies. Too much time is spent bitching at each other instead of pushing forward and getting things done! No wonder the country is in such a mess! Why can't they understand that the other party might have some ideas worthy of taking forward and work together.
Ideally, I'd like to abandon Party politics and for the people who win localised elections to sit around a table in Parliament and make the decisions as to how our country is run. They can spend the campaigning money on employing experts to assist them where needed (eg doctors to assist with NHS matters and teachers to assist with education matters - why do politicians think they are better placed than the people at the rock face to make decisions about industries that thye have no practical knowledge of? But mostly, they should all stop bitching and learn to work together for the common good.

StoneofDestiny Fri 30-Sept-22 16:38:22

I have never voted Tory, never would. I'm probably part of their target audience - well off and comfortable, but no - I have a moral compass and a conscience. I do not believe their should be nonsense like 'trickle down wealth'. That translates as 'crumbs off a rich man's table' (or 'persons' table if you prefer).

I want a thriving NHS and thriving Public Services from e.g. education, police, prison officers, carers etc. these are the areas where their are staff - this is where incentives need to be directed, not to the bankers, where there is no shortage at all.

Much better we think with our moral conscience engaged rather than with our wallets in mind.

Blossoming Fri 30-Sept-22 16:51:44

I agree Stone of Destiny

Maremia Fri 30-Sept-22 17:10:35

Thanks for the interesting thread MaizieD. Yes, I am with StoneofDestiny.

Fleurpepper Fri 30-Sept-22 17:16:55

DaisyL

Sticking my head above the parapet here, I was pro Boris and wish he was still PM. Not mad about Liz and Kwasi but I will almost certainly vote Tory in the next election but who know what will happen between now and then. I could explain why I am a Conservative, but it would take up too much space but it is to do with freedom of choice.

freedom of choice

an interesting concept. I quite liked the freedom of having workers' rights, oh and Human Rights. The freedom to have clean water and excellent husbandry. The freedom of access to good health care, and education. And also the freedom to go and live and work in Europe, be it for a few years, or for a new life.

Yes, I love that kind of freedom.

Many people are now free to be poor, free to not be warm or feed themselves or the kids. And they now do not even have the freedom to manifest that 'love of freedom' in the streets.

Very much in the eyes of the beholder!