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So now we know why the Queen died

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Mollygo Thu 29-Sept-22 14:20:50

I’m so glad my details won’t be published.

M0nica Thu 29-Sept-22 18:13:10

Nothing unusual to give a cause of death as 'old age' . Many very elderly people when they go, just drift down and then shut their eyes and never open them again and 'died of old age' is quite a commonly given as the cause of death in such cases.

Why cannot people just accept things at face value when someone is given a perfectly normal cause of death at the age they died at.

Zoejory Thu 29-Sept-22 18:08:49

She won't have had a post mortem. Old age is on many death certificates as cause of death in the elderly

AshleysGran Thu 29-Sept-22 18:08:32

Interesting that her parents are shown as "deceased", but not so her husband?

BlueBelle Thu 29-Sept-22 18:02:42

Everyone dies OF something a heart attack if old the heart is weak, or diseased. a stroke if the arteries are weakened etc etc you die OF something how ever old you are …. Old age isn’t an illness or a disease it’s a description of a time of life
The queen obviously had something suddenly happen that caused her demise but they don’t wish to divulge it

Chestnut Thu 29-Sept-22 18:01:25

If the Queen's death certificate is a matter of public record then there is no point in hiding it away. It saves a lot of hassle if they just publish it and let everyone see it.

I believe the 'old age' diagnosis was because that is enough for us to know. Maybe the family know more but we don't need to, it's none of our business.

Joseanne Thu 29-Sept-22 17:59:07

Thanks.

Zoejory Thu 29-Sept-22 17:54:57

Joseanne

Am I right in thinking that in England the Royal Family's death certificates can be held back. So it's only because she died in Scotland that we are seeing it?

All birth, marriage and death certificates are public records in England; Scotland and Wales.

Anyone can apply and receive Royal Family certificates

Witzend Thu 29-Sept-22 17:54:55

I know of two women in their 90s who hadn’t been at all ill, who just died in their sleep, so I dare say those were cases of ‘old age’.
A brilliant way to go, IMO, albeit a nasty shock for the relatives who wondered why they weren’t answering the phone/door, and found them.

Pittcity, my mother died at 97, with advanced dementia. IIRC the death certificate said Alz./old age.

Calendargirl Thu 29-Sept-22 17:49:53

My mother, at 92, had ‘old age’ and ‘osteoporosis’ on her death certificate.

She was, quite simply, worn out.

I found the old age reason very comforting.

Joseanne Thu 29-Sept-22 17:47:04

Am I right in thinking that in England the Royal Family's death certificates can be held back. So it's only because she died in Scotland that we are seeing it?

Anniebach Thu 29-Sept-22 17:41:26

I transcribed BMD for a county, 2 come to mind, 19th C

1. Had trouble breathing.

2. A clod of earth fell on his head.

I didn’t like the Queen’s death certificate shown on tv.

Pittcity Thu 29-Sept-22 16:57:46

My MIL died of Alzheimer's. Her death certificate said Old Age as she was 94.
We wondered if it was to massage figures.

biglouis Thu 29-Sept-22 16:55:46

Rather ironic that Dr Harold Shipman (who is believed to have killed over 200 people) often put "old age" on the death certificates of his patients. In most cases they were people much younger than the queen with most of them leading active lives. Yet the verdict "old age" was never questioned until the alarm was raised and his activities became public knowledge. When you think that if someone dies age 96 their heart has been beating for all that time. Organs do, in time, wear out!

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 29-Sept-22 16:29:11

She was under the care of doctors who would not need a post-mortem in order to certify cause of death. Neither of my parents had post-mortems; the doctors knew, and certified, the exact causes of death.

Fleurpepper Thu 29-Sept-22 16:27:59

NotAGran55

Unless she had a post-mortem they wouldn’t be able to be specific surely?

If she had been treated for a or some specific conditions in the recent past, her medical team would know. And if she had a heart attack or a CVA, they would know too.

None of our business, as said above- but why would they want to hide it?

Grandma70s Thu 29-Sept-22 16:24:45

I don’t know what was on my father’s death certificate, but he died at 94 of old age. He wasn’t ill. He just died.

Zoejory Thu 29-Sept-22 16:17:27

NotAGran55

Unless she had a post-mortem they wouldn’t be able to be specific surely?

Exactly! Working in registration I've seen umpteen death certificates with Old Age as cause. My mother had this on hers. Very normal

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 29-Sept-22 16:14:11

Given that she was performing an important State duty just two days before she died, I don’t buy the ‘old age’ reason. Same reason was given for Prince Philip’s death. Both obviously had medical conditions which had necessitated hospital stays, and in the Queen’s case inhibited mobility, However, not our business.

merlotgran Thu 29-Sept-22 15:22:38

Casdon

Why do you care though Fleurpepper, it makes no difference to anything? .

No it doesn’t and I wasn’t expecting to be told anything at all but ‘old age’ is a tad condescending.

NotAGran55 Thu 29-Sept-22 15:20:49

Unless she had a post-mortem they wouldn’t be able to be specific surely?

Norah Thu 29-Sept-22 15:17:58

rosie1959

Can't see that it's of any concern to anyone outside her family

Her passing at 96, while sad, has no impact to me.

LtEve Thu 29-Sept-22 15:17:07

My Father in law, who died this year aged 94, had old age on his death certificate.

Fleurpepper Thu 29-Sept-22 15:14:58

Casdon

Why do you care though Fleurpepper, it makes no difference to anything? .

I don't 'care'- just find it interesting.

Apologies for rhe above post, posted in wrong thread.

lemsip Thu 29-Sept-22 15:07:41

whatever else she may or may not have had old age killed her!

if she had anything else of a serious nature she could have lived on with it had she not been 96!

Fleurpepper Thu 29-Sept-22 15:06:17

We lived in digs in London. Servants' quarters under roof of Victorian 3 storey house, very steep stairs, damp, cold and miserable and very expensive compared to salary. Then we moved to Midlands and had awful digs linked to the job- dingy, damp, again, servants' quarters at the top of 5 storey building. And then we bought our first house in nice suburbs, but had absolutely nothing to put in it. 2.5 bed semi with nice corner garden. We got all second hand bits and bobs begged and borrowed. Make furniture with pallets and own bean bags, and own bed. New baby and no washing machine! Happy days.