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Charles may pay for Andrew's security

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GagaJo Mon 19-Dec-22 21:29:57

Don't know what to say about it really.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11553441/Prince-Andrews-armed-protection-police-replaced-private-security-officers.html

VioletSky Mon 26-Dec-22 15:07:29

VioletSky

I've given my answer, and stated why I have given it

I've also answered further questions and statements related to my answer

The question I asked was, would you be happy for your daughter or granddaughter to be alone with him?

The answers are very complicated but do not actually answer

So I have stopped asking

Do you think you can all manage to stop before new year?

Can I go now?

My bath is getting cold

Smileless2012 Mon 26-Dec-22 15:11:55

confused why are you asking if you can go now VS and what do you want us to stop doing before new year?

M0nica Mon 26-Dec-22 16:00:34

VS you seem determined to run this thread on your terms and dismiss everything that doesn't answer to your remit.

Fair enough, that is your choice. But it gives you no right to disparage those (and it seems to be most of us), who do not agree with you.

Elegran Mon 26-Dec-22 16:04:06

Daughter or granddaughter of what age and what skills??
My daughters are now in their fifties and have held responsible jobs for years, where they manage staff of both sexes. Their heads wouldn't be turned by the glamour (??) of a prince, and they wouldn't have been taken in by the recruiting methods of a madame looking for call-girls to exploit.
My grandaughter is 19 and 5 ft 2ins. She plays squash, including against men a foot taller than her, does Judo, goes rock-climbing, can argue anyone to exhaustion and organise anything from an abseiling contest to a zumba festival. She is clearly destined to become the CEO of some global organisation, and I would back her against any mere male chauvinist pig, whether in physical or intellectual combat.

You are free to go whenever you want, VS No-one is forcing you to stay. Enjoy your bath.

Mollygo Mon 26-Dec-22 16:08:56

I hereby give you permission to go VS- since you asked.
You’ve had answers-but obviously not the one you wanted. That happens in real life too.
You appear to think your daughter or granddaughter might find themselves in that situation so you could well answer your own question. That would ensure you get the exact answer you want and your bath will not get too cold, wasting both water and heating.shock

Galaxy Mon 26-Dec-22 16:11:22

You bet would be lost in terms of physical combat elegran in the majority of cases. Its daft to pretend otherwise.

Galaxy Mon 26-Dec-22 16:17:19

It would be safer for all our children if we didnt cheer on or excuse the buying of consent, men who do that have higher rates of domestic violence, and if you dig into the backgrounds of those who commit the most serious crimes, you often find a background of paying for sex.

VioletSky Mon 26-Dec-22 16:23:20

Pile on

I'm only around over Christmas because I have flu or possibly covid. I can't do much of anything and don't want to make my family sick

People worth talking/listening too will hopefully be back soon

Smileless2012 Mon 26-Dec-22 16:24:27

No one here is cheering on or excusing the buying of consent. I know threads meander but this thread is about King Charles possibly paying for his brother's, PA's security. Not about PA paying for sex as as far as I'm aware, it has never been suggested that he did.

VioletSky Mon 26-Dec-22 16:28:38

Lol Gagajo started this thread and I have stayed exactly on topic lol

Galaxy Mon 26-Dec-22 16:30:09

Numerous people have discussed the morality or not of women selling sex in this thread so yes the thread has meandered.
I actually have no problem with Charles paying for anyones security including Andrew and Harry. If you have a royal family then you have to protect the individuals within it. Its another reason why I would rather not have a royal family.

VioletSky Mon 26-Dec-22 16:30:09

Galaxy

It would be safer for all our children if we didnt cheer on or excuse the buying of consent, men who do that have higher rates of domestic violence, and if you dig into the backgrounds of those who commit the most serious crimes, you often find a background of paying for sex.

This is also on topic

VioletSky Mon 26-Dec-22 16:31:36

Oh well, a little meandering never hurt anyone

People can always go something else

I don't see anything new or interesting

Smileless2012 Mon 26-Dec-22 16:34:27

No, I don't have a problem with it either Galaxy it's Charles' decision.

M0nica Mon 26-Dec-22 16:39:40

Oh for heavens sake VC cut out the high moral tone and virtue signalling. You are carefully manipulating everything you write to sound as if you are being reasonable, but is actually aimed at goading people to reply.

I consider the behaviour you are indulging in despicable in anyone.

VioletSky Mon 26-Dec-22 16:40:39

www.unodc.org/unodc/en/human-trafficking/global-report-on-trafficking-in-persons.html

"Suprisingly women trafficking women is the norm"

People trafficking is modern day slavery. And while men are the customers it's often women bringing other vulnerable women into this scenario.

Women seeing other women as damaged goods, broken, worthless for anything other than what they can get out of them.

Reading some of the responses on this thread, it's not that surprising

I've come across many victims of sexual abuse who have been demeaned by their own families when they have sought support for abuse. Again, primarily the women in theor families who then saw them as broken, worthless and damaged goods. Women who told them not to tell anyone not to seek support, keep quiet, you'll never get a husband, everyone will see you as tainted.... it goes on and on

If we are going to change this, it's women who need to change

End thread.

Aveline Mon 26-Dec-22 16:44:23

You don't get to decide that a thread is ended. By all means end your contributions to it though.
M0nica is right.

Galaxy Mon 26-Dec-22 16:49:21

Men commit 99% of child sex abuse, do it's some jump to say women have to change.

Smileless2012 Mon 26-Dec-22 16:51:23

"women seeing other women as damaged goods, broken, worthless for anything other than what they can get out of them" which posts are you referring too when you say "reading some of the responses on this thread, it's not that surprising"?

I wasn't aware that VG had been has been demeaned by her own family when she sought support for abuse; that's awful.

welbeck Mon 26-Dec-22 17:02:36

VS, why are you conflating different issues.
and then almost accusing the posters here of behaving the way you describe above, in failing to support abused women/girls.
are you unable to think clearly, or are you intending to be insulting.

BaBaBoom Mon 26-Dec-22 17:06:31

I'm surprised that GNHQ have allowed the statement referring to PA saying the guy is a sex offender to stand tbh. As he has never been charged or convicted of any crimes whatsoever, I'd have thought that to be a libellous statement?

Galaxy Mon 26-Dec-22 17:08:09

Someone would have to report it, they dont monitor threads.

Summerlove Mon 26-Dec-22 17:26:48

lemsip

*Give it a rest on Christmas day*

Why?

Are trafficked children given a rest?

Summerlove Mon 26-Dec-22 17:27:47

VioletSky

Why are you saying this to me? Sorry, I just don't understand what you are getting at?

Just another put down

Emotional women are so irrational you know

lemsip Mon 26-Dec-22 17:31:11

Just woken up? Summerlove