Covid

And the rising cases are only those that are reported. Or are the figures extrapolated from the reported ones?

First sentence - no they are not.

Representative samples of the population are made and extrapolated. Its not depending on anybody being a "good citizen"

We really, really need to stop worrying ourselves into an early grave.

i also wonder what planning is in place if it mutates again
Don’t know, don’t care but one thing I do know is: the majority of the public won’t be locked up again.

I’m the same, I avoided it for three years and suddenly got it last week. Tested myself because I had a high temp and cough which is unusual for me. I was mixing with loads of coughing people last week at the gym and on buses. that was probably where I got it. It must be worrying for vulnerable people who have just started to live a normal life.

volver3

^With immaculate timing the government is no longer doing the random public sampling that let them estimate the number of cases, so the only way to judge is by hospital admissions.^

I'm not sure that's true Caramme. Why do you think that?

I read it in one of the online papers. Sorry, but I can”t recall which one.

It's not true Caramme. Please see above.

MerylStreep

^i also wonder what planning is in place if it mutates again^
Don’t know, don’t care but one thing I do know is: the majority of the public won’t be locked up again.

I’ll do whatever I’m asked to do if it protects others and our NHS.

It is not a 'normal' illness. Why is it being dismissed as such?

I am not sure what you mean by that.
I do think it could still be around in 100 years.

I am wondering, could be wrong, is it now the people who have been very careful for 3 years, who are now getting it? The two people I know who got it recently, had been very careful in the past.

We got it last June and barely knew we had it. Have felt far, far worse with flu and tonsillitis.

After a family Mother’s Day gathering we were advised that one couple tested positive the day after. Seven of the twelve who had gathered tested positive within a few days - including us! Have found it exhausting. Like a very heavy cold plus coughing and lethargic, difficulty sleeping. Taking it very seriously. DH is insulin dependent plus asthma so vulnerable.

There are no restrictions on travel abroad even if you have covid . DD and her DH got it probably through air travel .

According to this www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-infection-survey-participants-thanked-for-huge-contribution-to-pandemic-response , and my son who was participating, the ONS survey is being paused.

My three nieces and their dad have just tested positive who we are not in contact with seems to be more than we think.

At least 10 of my family had covid, most had bad cold like symptoms, but my husband ended up in hospital by ambulance, while in yhere a lady was admitted to the next bed with 2 strains at the same time, my husband was out after 6 days and told to isolate for 10,this was just a personal suggestion by the doctor , my husband never got better had long covid, stroke, covid again in hospital, chest infection, urine infection
now a rare brain cyst that they had never come across before, thankfully he has turned the corner after 5 months in hospital , for most of us it's a nasty cold or no symptoms at all, I wear my mask shopping,my family don't, its being wise for others sake,if it stops one person that's vulnerable going through what my husband is going through then I wear a mask

We went on a cruise a couple of weeks ago. No one was allowed on board without proof of up to date vaccinations and a negative Covid test in the previous 12 hours. All the time we had to wear masks except when eating or out on deck in the open. I 100% supported this. They also made you wash your hands before entering any eating establishments- literally stood at the doors and wouldn’t let you in unless you obeyed. Quite right,too.

I am sorry about your husband I hope he's okay. I'm fed up of people saying it's just a cold I mean it might seem like that for some.

Interesting. I think this should be the case especially on board a ship .

It most definitely is not just a Cold..ive been absolutely wiped out and I'm usually 100mph...I had covid last March..wasnt as bad as this..
I've also been involved in the ONS study since lockdown 2020..and now received a letter to say its being paused...

I'm sorry you had it like that since I got it I have heard more people have it. If people would just take more precautions when out and about. I have had cold and flu this is definitely not the same.

DH has just recovered for his third bout of Covid. (Very involved with care of DGC who bring it home from school). He has had all four vaccinations. This was his worst bout ever. We think this time it was caught on flight on return from a week in the sun for much needed R and R. How ironic.

For many people a covid infection is just a cold. In fact, I've had worse colds than the covid infection I had some months ago. If I hadn't needed to test because of where I work, I wouldn't have known I had had covid. It was like a mild cold and all symptoms had gone after less than 72 hours.

This also applies to several of my colleagues who had covid around the same time.

Similarly, I know several people, including MrB and DD2, who have had both flu and covid who have said that in their experience flu was worse.

Which doesn't mean I don't believe people have it badly, only that it simply isn't true to say it "definitely isn't" like a cold. For many people – actually the majority, I believe – it is.

Hoping anyone who has it now recovers quickly and well 💐

Nanderin

I'm sorry you had it like that since I got it I have heard more people have it. If people would just take more precautions when out and about. I have had cold and flu this is definitely not the same.

If people would just take more precautions when out and about.

Unfortunately we are now so polarised with regard to COVID- some are cautious and careful, others don't appear to give a damn.

I'm rather in the middle-ground. I'm CEV, but don't want to curtail a 'normal' way of life, on the other hand neither do I want to be struck down with something that might affect me for the remainder of my life - especially as I'm the sole carer of my disabled partner who's also CEV.

The government appears to have completely lost interest in the matter so it's up to each one of us to take whatever necessary precautions we deem fit. I wear a mask (with a filter) when going into crowded places. I know it's not fool proof but it might just prevent me inhaling someone else's droplets when in a supermarket (for example) - where I've noticed some people coughing and spluttering without any attempt to cover their mouth... whatever happened to "coughs-and-sneezes-spread-diseases"? Apart from the sheer lack of manners. Even pre-pandemic it used to be considered etiquette to sneeze or cough into a tissue.

Apart from that, I don't think about it, nor worry - there's little point in doing so.

But I don't trust people - hand-washing and 'politely' coughing into your handkerchief (or whatever) appear to be alien concepts for some. I was in the customer toilets in a supermarket the other day and a woman came rushing in - went into a cubicle, and rushed out again without bothering to wash her hands. Yuk!

Right from the start of the pandemic I’ve found that some people that have had covid quite mildly seem to disregard how dangerous it can be to others, and have a bit of a superiority complex ( which isn’t quite what I’m trying to say but I can’t think of the right term).ie they don’t see what all the fuss is about. I’m not referring to people on gransnet by the way, but another forum that I’m on.

I endorse Volver's claim that reportage of Covid is organised by an official body the Office for National Statistics. I am one of the guinea pigs or have been since the observations and reporting began by the ONS. I can assure anyone who is interested that the Office of National Statistics is fit for purpose.

I had a hospital appointment this morning and was told that Covid hospital admissions to that particular hospital were at the highest they have been in a long time.
Masks are supposed to be mandatory, but I was shocked at the number of people walking about maskless. Some people are so complacent.
For someone like me, who is CEV and immunocompromised, I expect to feel safe in hospital.

I too am shocked that the local large hospital does not supervise mask wearing by patients and others. There must surely be security staff?